• Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
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    efforts to intervene, which range from removing perches to hormone treatment and surgery

    wtf :(

  • mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    Who the fuck is researching this and what is the process of their information gathering?

    Just a bunch of scientists sitting around watching birds goon all day going “ya, this seems perfectly natural!”

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      More importantly, why should I give a shit about the findings and opinions of some seriously disturbed perverts?!?

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      Researchers historically tended to assume birds either did not masturbate or did so only under the stress of captivity … Accounts from hobbyists revealed that some owners had sought veterinary help when they caught their birds masturbating, fearing the animals might hurt themselves.

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      People are HORRIBLE with birds. Even the ones that pretend to love them treat them like trash.

      And then there’s the fuckers that think that their views of the world matters more than anything else, and will punish masturbation because animals don’t feel pleasure so it shouldn’t be allowed, will punish them for having gay couples because gay shouldn’t exist and especially not in animals (else how can you say your main homophobic argument of “gay is unnatural, only degenerate humans do it”), will starve them for “training” purposes, and don’t get me started on the diets, environment safety and cage sizes.

      There’s a reason why the life expectancy of birds doesn’t increase in captivity. People are really, really horrible with birds, and the more I read about people who “care” about birds the worse I feel for their birds.

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        Being gay is unnatural, that’s why you never saw a gay goat!

        Actually, goats are unnatural. But you never saw a gay frog!

        Actually, that’s Big Pharma making the frogs gay. But you never saw a gay bird!

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      “folk husbandry often advises bird keepers to discourage or punish this behaviour, sometimes even resorting to surgery and hormonal interventions,”

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    I believe the politically correct term is “Women”. They tend to bitch a lot when you call them “birds”.

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    A bird wrote this

    PS: Article delivers

    An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax

    Typically, males would be “rubbing quite vigorously” on their perch, a toy or a twig, or on their owner’s hand, foot or shoulder

    Freaky ass birds.

    Hold up. If a bird is bonded to you, and it does it, does it even count as baitin’? Sounds more like it’s trying to mate with its mate. Or is bird-jacking fundamentally different? Bird experts… pitch in.

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      Hold up. If a bird is bonded to you, and it does it, does it even count as baitin’? Sounds more like it’s trying to mate with its mate.

      This is actually one part of why fully hand-rearing baby parrots should not be done. When they don’t perceive themselves as birds and will only bond to humans, they can get extremely frustrated since humans can’t properly answer to their instinctual needs like mating behavior. This then easily leads to plenty of behavioral issues like excessive screaming and aggression towards even the human they’re bonded with. Never seek to become a birds mate, just be friends with them

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        Can you explain why a bird bonded to you from early childhood would also be sexually attracted to you? To humans in general I could understand but why to you, the “parent”? Are birds less opposed to incest?

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          I don’t actually know do birds have higher tendency to inbreeding in nature. I know in captivity especially the smaller, more aviary setting kept birds might breed with their siblings and parents if there’s not enough unrelated mates.

          And with hand-fed bigger parrots getting bonded to humans in general is like grooming, very simplified. Growing up without proper birding tends to cause all sorts of mental problems already, and they might not have any other person or parrot to seek company from, and at worst people do stuff like stroke their backs which is a sexual signal. So what’s a hormonal teenager gonna do when the strong instinct of gotta find a mate kicks in?

          Edit// forgot words

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          There’s a difference between incest and inbreeding. Opposition to incest, that is sex for pleasure among family members, is a moral position, and apparently unique to humans.

          Inbreeding, sex for reproduction, is blocked on a biological level more strongly in some species than others, but it still happens, of course.

          In humans, and perhaps other species, there is sometimes sexual disinterest in closely related family members, but this is not “opposition to incest”, and certainly is not universal.

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      Not an expert, but I’ve witnessed something like this. Step mom turned into a strange bird person for her midlife crisis, got an African grey that absolutely hates all females including her, but loves all dude. It dude puff up and squat on your shoulder, but it wouldn’t rub anything. Maybe it’s different for male birds.

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    An investigation into acts of self-pleasure among parrots and other birds has reached a climax, with the results providing welcome relief for vets and researchers, not to mention the birds themselves.

    Asked if they showed any signs of self-loathing or Catholic guilt, Heys thought not. “I don’t want to say satisfied, but they do look different after they finish. It’s obviously doing something for them.”

    Someone was having a little too much fun with this article.