Mayor Zohran Mamdani charged Benjamin Nentayahu with genocide, said he is unwelcome in New York City, and called for his arrest. Two years ago, that would have been unimaginable. Going forward, it should be a litmus test.

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    Cool. Now let’s also say what we’re all thinking: Trump should be in there with him. Preferably in the same cell so that it’s awkward af.

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      Preferably in the same cell

      C’mon, this is elementary stuff. You don’t want to give them the opportunity to coordinate their lies.

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      Nah, there’s a balance to Mamdani, too extreme and Trump will send Meal Team 6in after him and make some public example of him.

      Mamdani is biding his time and building a base at the hopes of a newer, better, less-bought Democrat party by the next election. He can’t do that from a blacksite in chains.

      if we ever have another fair election,… if anyone considers what we had as fair.

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        After seeing the Russian Tails in the numbers for 2016, 2020, and 2024 favoring Trump. It’s for sure feels like we haven’t seen a fair election in over a decade and I currently question our elections and think they are illegitimate. And that’s not even going into the known cheating that happened in Ohio that helped Bush get into office(or the Florida shenanigans from the same election for that matter).

        So yeah, I think Trump cheated with Russia’s(and/or Israel’s) and Elon’s help and is an illegitimate President. Though to be fair he was illegitimate after trying to spawn an insurrection, and should have been hanged for High Treason already.

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          We havent had a fair election in my entire life. Bush straight up stole the election from Gore, and even if theres none of that extreme blatant stealing, everything is rigged so hard in favor of republicans, from voting booth locations, to gerrymandering, to right wing thugs being intimidating, etc etc.

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            Imagine a world where Al Gore won in 2000, and Bernie Sanders in 2016. Sigh

            Can’t change the past though. Might as well wish Jimmy Carter beat Reagan in '81, and JFK and LBJ both served two full terms…

            It’s crazy to think how different the world could be if a few evil republicans didn’t ratfuck everything.

            Nixon, Reagan, Bush2, and tRump. The sheer amount of the world’s woes that can be laid squarely at the feet of just four people is astounding

            It’s not like they didn’t have help. But if it weren’t for those four presidencies, so much shit never would have happened…

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                You’re going to need to elaborate, you’ve lost me with what exactly you’re trying to get at with being so vague. Traditionally you use the subject’s name, before switching to pronouns so the reader knows who the fuck you’re talking about.

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                  This is not hard to follow. You responded to someone, your comment appears below theirs. I responded to you, my comment appears below yours. Notice how this trend continues.

                  How is he “right” in saying there has “never” been a fair election in his lifetime but he’s not including two of them? Has he died and come to life repeatedly?

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          Russia’s disinformation attempts isn’t voter fraud and we’re really shooting ourselves in the foot by replicating their “stop the steal” nonsense.

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            Yeah not the only thing I was referencing, but I do find it funny that you can’t accuse a known fraudster, cheat, as well as someone who projects the shit he does on to others, doing it yet again. All because he said it first lol.

            Like imagine how dumb, and naive you have to be to just go “OH! They accused everybody of cheating, and that’s bad! So if I do it back I’m bad too! So I can’t do that!” Even when there is evidence, and very valid character reasons to believe that cheating happened lol. Like just shutting your brain off, and stopping critical thinking all together over such a simple manipulation tactic.

            Which on that note, here are couple sites that have that data, and keep track of that stuff. https://smartelections.us/ https://electiontruthalliance.org/

            And if you believe Donald Trump won all swing states fairly(astronomical odds of that happening in any election, btw) then I have the deed to The Golden Gate Bridge, and I would love to sell it to you, DM me and we can start negotiating.

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      Preferably in the same cell so that it’s awkward af.

      If you think trump is not gonna stop giving that sloppy toppy to netanyahu irl then you have a more favourable view of politics then I do

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    We can’t let mayors do that kind of shit though. You know how many yee-heil podunk mayors out there would start arresting every unauthorized tan?

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      I’m shocked everyday that there ain’t an assassination attempt on him. My politics are more extreme than his but his platform is violently opposed to the status quo and its overlords

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        Because that would be instant martyrdom and would further the movement. I guarantee Isreal, republicans and democrats are all looking at him like a hawk waiting for him to slip up. They can’t just kill him, he needs to be tarred and feathered and his beliefs discredited.

        We’re just lucky he’s such a baller you can’t catch him slipping.

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        Most assassination attempts are by nutjobs, not some intricate conspiracy. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction, but not always.

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      Sadly this isn’t some new development after Oct 7, the Nakba was in 1948 and the details we now know of Israeli atrocities from that event are truly horrifying. The Israelis have been brutally terrorizing their neighbors for over 75 years, Bibi is just a natural extension of that campaign of terror. Israel is the most egregious terrorist organization in the world, bar none.

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        That’s a wild telling of what happened in 1948.

        After the Brits left Mandatory Palestine it was basically an existential war for Israel. Israel declares independence and immediately gets invaded by Egypt, Iraq, Transjordan and Syria, supported by the Arab Liberation Army and corps of volunteers from Saudi Arabia, Lebanon and Yemen.

        After the war Israel extended it’s borders. Some say for security, some say as territorial conquest for more Jews to settle.

        This is very much not as one-sided as you make it out to be.

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          It was a war against Israeli ethnic cleansing, which they started even before their declaration of independance.

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          The Nakba was, to my understanding, seperate from war and happened in order to clear space and displace Palestinian settlement so that there was effectively room for the Jewish population to now live there, and is a pretty well documented historical example of ethnic cleansing. It was what happened in order to establish the state of israel, and was initially carried out by Zionists and then by the IDF once the IDF was created, if I’m remembering correctly

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba?wprov=sfla1

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            I think the terms get mixed up sometimes. Israel calls it the war of independence. The displacement was part of “Plan Dalet”. Nakba sometimes refers to the displacement and massacres specifically and sometimes to the whole war.

            Don’t get me wrong, war crimes were committed (if that was a thing back in '48 not sure). I just don’t like the characterization that Israel is a terrorist state that terrorizes all its neighbors. This was not one-sided at all.

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                I mean the city bombings were war crimes after today’s standards. Idk when the Rome statute or Geneva convention were created. Was driving out all the Germans from now Poland a war crime? The death toll was around 400,000 for that.

                I’m not a historian idk if that’s just what people did back in the day. Today that would be a war crime.

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              Indeed, there is a specific definition of genocide and afaict Hamas has met the definition for 20+ years; Isreal hadn’t sunk to the full definition until Bibi finished eviscerating the courts and shoveling fundamentalist BS into the Knesset just a few years ago

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          I’m not going to argue anything you said cause it’s factual, it wasn’t one-sided. It is now. Israel has total victory over the Palestinians. A Palestinian state will never exist now, and Israel is still killing them. It’s not a war anymore, It’s a genocide.

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      Point to were he made that promise… I’ll wait. He basically said he would if he could and then confirmed what everyone already knew. That he doesn’t have the authority to do so.

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      Yes. This is his further affirmation of that promise. However he can only do it now if Netanyahu comes to New York (which he probably won’t do)

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    A war criminal who committed horrific crimes against humanity including genocide belongs behind bars? Really? Wow! Thank you captain obvious. We all know that. But we also know it’s not going to happen. Your entire country is run by criminals who are desperately trying to cover up raping children on a regular basis, by doing more illegal acts, also to enrich themselves, at the cost of others. There’s a whole list of leaders and their regimes that actually belong behind bars after a fair trial, including Netanyahu, Trump and Putin, to name the biggest ones.

    Start to recognize the ICC, arrest war criminals and put them on trial.

    Saying war criminals actually should belong behind bars doesn’t put them there. Giving them weapons and funding neither.