KILL THE TRANNIES AND THE GAYS!!! It says to do so in Leviticus.

-Republicans, soon probably.

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    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”

    It’s right there in the first line of the Bill of Rights.

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    the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion - John Adams

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    Does anyone remember the New Testament verse where Jesus tells the gay people to all fuck off and that his followers should persecute them? All I remember is him clearly saying to ‘love thy neighbors’ a lot - pretty gay tbh.

    I did read the bible many decades ago, can’t remember any such verses - will admit it was a total snooze fest though, so I might’ve missed it or forgotten.

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      Their interpretation of the Bible is just as valid as anybody else’s.

      Edit: Oof, I must have upset the hardcore Christians. Why else would you downvote this comment?

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        Correct. And that validity is “zero” or “none.”

        It’s a book of fables that enables evil people to do evil. No need to comment back, you can’t change my mind on this.

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          In all seriousness, what did you actually think I meant by my comment? We are basically saying the same thing. But somehow you act like you’re disagreeing with my comment.

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        I didn’t downvote you, but no… Not really. And people are probably downvoting you just because you’re wrong.

        Like if someone said their interpretation of the bible is ‘that we should all trebuchet kittens at the sun during eclipses’ they would be treated as idiots - because that claim has no backing.

        Its a book full of fables, correspondence, parables, and accounts of history. It’s not written to be highly interpretive - it’s written to be proscriptive. That some people twist its wording for their own political or ideological interpretations is something that should always be called out - if they’re claiming to be followers of Jesus and their core religious text contradicts them - that’s ridiculous, and it’s pathetic that a lot of people go along with it unchallenged.

        P.s. not Christian BTW.

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          I think you and I are in agreement about the end result. Fact is, people can and do validate their shitty beliefs using the Bible all the time. Just because your opinion is that they are wrong doesn’t change reality.

          When your foundation is built on fairy tales, anything goes.

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    You think it won’t be women next? Then nonwhites? Then non-christians? Then the Final Solution?

    We’ve seen this movie before.

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      You think it won’t be women next? Then nonwhites? Then non-christians? Then the Final Solution?

      Last hired, first fired

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      … they use a similar logic. First we accept this lifestyle? Then we require it? Before you know it, we will depopulate ourselves into an extinction.

      Here’s what the article says:

      Among its findings, the report targets a 2024 rule which required foster care providers who wanted to receive designated placement status for caring for LGBTQ+ children to receive training on the needs of LGBTQ+ youth, help queer kids access to age-appropriate healthcare resources, and “commit to establishing an environment that supports the child’s LGBTQI+ status or identity.

      As impactful and significant as these programs seem, revoking them doesn’t sound like a Holocaust in the making. Are gay children so different from straight children that their care requires a training program?

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          It just seems like the policies being revoked are more virtue signaling than anything else. Both parties are virtue signalling. It’s meaningless rhetoric; nothing was achieved.

          You know what would be awesome for the gay community? Free healthcare, legal pot, a well-funded Social Security system. They benefit from the same things that benefit everyone else.

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    Debts higher than the GDP, better worry about how many genders there are. Conservative be dumb as rocks

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    its not the job of the government to obey Christian values. its the job of the government to protect its people, and if those people are gay, the government is OBLIGATED to make their life better like any other citizen.

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      In a class-based system like capitalism, the state (cops, courts, military, ICE, etc.) exists to maintain the rule of one class over another, in this case the capitalist class. American neo-liberalism has served the capitalists’ interests well for the last few decades, but it is no longer. They need to tighten their grip because they are losing ground economically (to China, specifically).

      This is when you see every effort to divide (weaken) and repress the working masses. Minoritized people and leftists are the first to be repressed - they are easy targets because the capitalists and the media outlets spend billions propagandizing the working masses to turn against these groups. This is when you see right wing reaction - as we are seeing now, not just in the US, but in many of the capitalist countries that are allies with US imperialism. This is a cycle that keeps repeating in every capitalist crisis.

      It is in the interests of the whole working class - internationally - to recognize this tactic used to divide the working masses (which will lead to even lower quality of life for all) and to instead stand up against this repression and to defend people on the receiving end of US Imperialist aggression, whether this be workers, minorities, and/or countries (Iran, Cuba, etc.).

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    I’m a Christian, and I hate this movement so much. I want to hate the people, trust me, but Jesus said to love, so I must. Seriously though, separation of church and state, now please.

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      Part of loving someone is holding them accountable for their own actions and behavior. Growth is not possible without accountability

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      You should check out John Fugelsang, he just released a book “The Separation of Church and Hate” and he has a podcast. He is a comedian, and his father was a Franciscan friar and his mother was a Carmelite nun so he’s got a really interesting background.

      He also has a bunch of resources (including materials for churches) on how to reclaim actual bible based Christianity with compassion instead of whatever we have now.

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      I want to hate the people, trust me, but Jesus said to love, so I must.

      Imagine being this cucked by something with zero evidence of existing

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    Meanwhile, the sheep and the goats part just gets ignored

    34 “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’

    37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’

    40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’

    I’m sure they’ll do some backflips to say “the brothers only mean people I like”, but then there’s the “who is my neighbor?” part.

    29 But wanting to vindicate himself, he said to Yeshua, “Then who is my neighbor?”

    30 Yeshua replied, “A certain man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho. He was attacked by robbers, who stripped him and beat him. Then they left, abandoning him as half dead. 31 And by chance, a kohen was going down that road; but when he saw the man, he passed by on the opposite side. 32 Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the opposite side. 33 But a Samaritan who was traveling came upon him; and when he noticed the man, he felt compassion. 34 He went up to him and bandaged his wounds, pouring on olive oil and wine. Then setting him on his own animal, he brought him to a lodge for travelers and took care of him. 35 The next day he took out two denarii[b] and gave them to the innkeeper, saying, ‘Take care of him. And whatever else you spend, upon my return I will repay you myself.’ 36 Which of these three seems to you a neighbor to the one attacked by robbers?”

    37 And he said, “The one who showed mercy to him.”

    Then Yeshua said to him, “Go, and you do the same.”

    But they’re not sincere, so the text doesn’t matter.

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    Me to every self-identified LGBTQ+ person shitting on Biden/Harris in 2024:

    Me now:

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      Yeah, sucks that the dnc decided the genocide of the Palestinian population, frac mining and also cracking down on immigration and funding ICE was more important than massive LGBT rights overhaul and universal healthcare overhaul. Damn lgbt leftists having morals !!! Maybe in 2026 Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris could capitulate MORE to the right, the same people they (rightfully) call fascists! Where can we bring Liz Cheney this time? Bring Bush Jr too!!!

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          Explain to me why I should vote for politicians sending billions to Israel, a genocidal country, when our country and our sovereign rights are literally eroding at home. I’ll wait. I vote for democrats every chance I get. Midterms and all.

          Tell me, when I see the governor of my state running for VP (A man who’s campaign I supported btw) and he says on TV that he’ll “preemptively strike Iran” and his running mate, the current vice president of the country, saying we need to have the “strongest military force in the world” I’m supposed to support that? While democrats fund a genocide? Forget being worse in Gaza than Biden, Biden and his admin still destroyed the city and laughed about it to voters. They killed tens of thousands.

          You really think young voters see that, see them touting around fucking DICK CHENEYS DAUGHTER, the Cheney family being one of the most evil families in my lifetime (look up the Wikipedia page for Halliburton Oil Company to get a start).

          Seriously I have no interest in the “lesser evils” because everyone is lesser evil than Trump. That’s the most obvious to everyone but fascists. You can’t convince me that Imperial exploitation and genocide and war is ok if it’s not Trump in office doing it. Insult me all you want, doesn’t change reality.

          I am a queer person and I know lots of queer people too and I will block you if you try to say anything gross about Palestine and LGBT rights. I’ve had enough of that and I don’t engage with it anymore

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            All I hear is you justifying why trump needed to win so that you could follow your morals.

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              Typical, that is very obviously not what I want. I want people to have free health care, free education and more. Show me where Trump wants that.

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                  What do you mean standing my ground? The state I live in is one of the only places where voting for democrats locally is actually worth it! How is it my fault as a single voter?! I already voted for them!!

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        That is legitimately the message they take when they lose elections. Clearly, America is a conservative country.

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        Yes both parties are shit, but they used to be a regular bucket of shit and a large bucket of shit so you could vote for a third party to avoid the shit knowing at worst you’d only get a large bucket of shit.

        Now our options are a large bucket of shit and a mountain of shit, and you should vote to avoid the mountain of shit not to avoid all shit because even a large bucket of shit is more palatable than a mountain.

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          My point is that voting is the very very beginning of your political responsibility as a leftist. There is a lot more to do. And no I don’t mean financially support, I mean organization and community outreach. This should really be seen as something you do first and regardless of who is president. Donate money to your local food shelf if you can, & I mean every month.

          Also don’t take what I say too seriously I’m just one guy, I just get annoyed when people bring up establishment democrats and act like if they were president all this would be better. My only gripe is with that rhetoric. You should be doing way more than voting. Like, yesterday.

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    It’s pretty clear trump is working for something bigger and the goal is just to wear America down to near collapse so something else can be built in the rubble.

    It’s also clear most Americans have had way too much privilege in their lives to even live like real humans or care. God bless consumerism, escapism, and denial.

    It feels like a nation that pimps its people then offers them drugs to escape until they get pimped again.

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        I mean it’s literally what they do, it’s not by accident. Mainstream and street follow the same “dream.”

        I never thought I’d get like …spiritual or religious, but I’ve been and it really seems like western cultures live for a “false god”. Even the religious institutions.

        Something is very wrong. And even the idea of rapture in a weird way sounds like it’s possible. Not like people evaporating to be saved, but like all these people disconnected from honest universal reality that live for their nations, false spirituality, and greed/materialism, are going to fall in warlike times. While for the people that stay in tune with reality and the universe it’s just another day and they don’t fear the reaper so to speak.

        It really seems like the conspiracies are truth laced with lies that evil hides behind. Going all the way back to biblical times and Christianity hiding the gnostic gospels in order make religion a tool for power and order… Taking honest reality from “gods” hands and putting it in the hands of corruption. They separated us from our honest souls. We aren’t who the universe meant for us to be. We have infinite imagination but are marketed simple lifestyles that lead to their gains of power. To the point it’s like we are farmed with a false sense of freewill to keep us striving in a loop. Not really much different than free range cattle.

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          As a former born and raised Southern Baptist, it angers and saddens me knowing that - despite the trouble and injustice they may inflict - they are shackled with lies.