I can’t help but feel like this attitude is a byproduct of homework being the biggest part of a grade and not actually understanding the material.
These people think that because the “homework” is done, they’re deserving of all the praise and acclaim. The system has conditioned them to think so, in many cases it’s literally rewarded them for it. That’s how we end up with so many idiots with degrees.
one of our literature teachers had a thing about students who didn’t read the books from the course and she was giving out a “free one” to any student who would bullshit their way through report creatively. barely anyone ever managed to get a grade that way though because it wasn’t creative enough.
Id just repeat myself and add fluff to get 5 pages, I got pretty good from cliff notes
Encyclopedias, a library card, and a typewriter
Honestly i still never wrote 5pages essais, 4th page was never full 🫣
Big font. Double spacing. A couple of bullshit tables. I’ll turn your essay into 7 pages.
That’s why they asked for word count and not pages
What did the random man add to this?
I wrote them by hand, in cursive. But not before I made a harvard outline.
But seriously if anyone out there is actually trying to write an essay, the harvard outline model is legit for organizing and setting up.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard this had a name.
Huh, I was taught the Cornell outline method. I didn’t know there was competition!
Cornell… How quaintly plebian… Lol
Outlines have always driven me insane. I prefer to write like a deranged animal and then restructure as necessary
Never saw anything like that, but I more or less gravitated towards something like that. Just Intro - Point 1 - Point 2 - Point 3 - Conclusion
Yeah, this is some basic stuff, but I guess it’s good to have formalized to teach people. I don’t recall what method I was taught, but it was something similar to this. I don’t ever remember using it so formally though. Just basically outline what you’re going to go over, and then fill it all in. I think almost all formal structures like this should be abandoned once you understand how they function, and it should be adapted to what works best for you. The formal version is just a starting point.
I think being super formal like this method really pays off when you have to collaborate. Far easier, more efficient and accurate to say “Look a section IV.c and tell me what you think.” Rather than “that one part with the dude, ya know”
Most writing outlines are for yourself though, but yeah, when it’s in an organization you need something formalized, at minimum just so you can quickly find what you need to find. If every person has their own system of organizing things then it’s going to be a mess.
Nice. Been a while since I’ve seen that. I used mind maps, then structured. This seems like the clean version but mine I could write on a chalk/whiteboard before I hand wrote it in the Harvard format. 2000+ word essays, several pages long, MLA style. Always an A.
Hell ya. It shows when you build it on a good frame
You want me to believe J.R.R Tolkien generated a whole new series and setting without AI?
Dude was a multidimensional being from an alternate future where magic was real and he copied history books. Occam’s razor man, sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. /s just in case.
I’m actually teaching some students who honest to God are in their early teens and LITERALLY cannot string two sentences together. I never want to hear anybody tell me about how writing assignments were a waste of time again, because I can PERSONALLY vouch that if you don’t practice it, you literally cannot do it at all.
Essay writing (for example exercises that you are arguing for one side vs the other) is major part how you learn critical thinking.
I suspect that the educated people who were anti vax during covid most likely paid others to write essays for them.
I think it can play a part and help many though your statement feels as though you’re implying it’s required for critical thinking. I could be wrong however. I bring it up because I don’t feel like the essays I’ve had to write contributed to my understanding of critical thinking as much as empathy did.
If you didn’t mean it that way, carry on! If you did, I’d be very interested to learn what makes it intrinsic to the critical thinking framework.
It’s not about understanding critical thinking it is about thinking critically.
When you write an essay to compare and contrast, or pick a position about specific subject you know that you can’t use your for feeling or use some random guy on Facebook you still have to back it up if you want to get a good grade. It doesn’t even matter what your position is, as long as you do work. You know the teacher won’t accept any bullshit. It purposefully is also given topic that you are unlikely to know about so you do that work.
This is what teaches you critical thinking skills, that you can apply in your life in the future for new things.
People who has others do this work for them or attended colleges that didn’t do this got nice disservice done as it is much easier to lie to them.
Ah, okay I see where my disconnect was. Since it’s the most common application of critical thinking for me, I was thinking of it in terms of introspection. It might just be that I got enough practice in school that I sometimes forget it’s not the default way most folks look at things.
Thanks for elaborating!
The easiest method to string two sentences together is to simply forget to use a period, right?
LITERALLY cannot string two sentences together. I never want to hear anybody tell me about how writing assignments were a waste of time again
If these young adults can’t put two sentences together, then it seems like their writing assignments were definitely a waste of time.
Theyre not doing the assignments is the point I think
That is the point, yes.
Which is another thing. The ones who never do the reading assignments have ABYSMAL reading comprehension. And I don’t just mean like, they can’t find symbolism - I mean:
“Bob picked up the scissors off the counter.” “What did Bob pick up?” “…I don’t know.”
It’s legitimately scary.
I wrote a five page essay in the six hours before the 9am deadline, while high as balls. Kids these days gotta lock in. And do more drugs.
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Skim the book, read a couple reviews online, find a couple random quotes from the book, then write a 10 page comparative essay discussing how the book relates to American exceptionalism and do it again next week.
Spark Notes saved me tons of times.
True story: I once made up an entire book during recess because I forgot the assignment. The teacher probably was aware but gave good grades because I was the only one who kept on going instead of summarising the book in under a minute.
In other words no, we don’t need ai.
On the bus on the way to school when it was due in the first period.
I did that once for some big assignment. I got a B and a “you can do better” from the teacher.
Great job!
I did one of those “month long large research” ones in like an hour the night before and got an A and the teacher ended up using it as a good example of writing.
Which is hilarious because I got a low B in that class because the rest of the writing was graded so subjectively on the content that I stopped caring lol.
My daughter got nearly mobbed by her co-students for “not telling which AI she used for writing her papers”. Her papers were regularly applauded for her good writing. She hates AI with a vengeance and wrote all her papers on her own. She is just good at this kind of thing.
And now anyone who is even remotely good at creative writing or even just passably literate with a good vocabulary are forever going to have their works called into question.
On the other hand, there is no better praise than having some Gen Z kid with terminal brain rot accuse you of talking like an AI model. I accept that implied insult like a gamer accepting a hackusation - I’m winning so much that you can’t discern cheating from skill.
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Come again?
Keyboard app acting up again, sorry.
Meme aside, it’s refreshing to see punctuation used in a meme, and it makes it so much easier to read
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