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I’ve been riding motorcycles for a couple decades and now that they’re all fancy and computer controlled, most bike have their ECUs cracked within a couple years. Granted most of the time it’s to remove Euro-5 emissions controls 🙄, or remove speed limiters. But could this be an option to disable car surveillance?
I recognize car companies will probably retaliate by saying you voided warranty, but so far most motorcycle companies don’t do that.
There are those still content with gas engine performance.
I sincerely doubt this will be limited to EVs going forward.
No, they use them because of the smell and noise. Infant seeking attention.
Bicycles are vehicles. I definitely own it.
we live in a fucking dystopian nightmare, i hate it here
Good to see rural truck bros starting to learn what supporting authoritarians will get them.
Theyre a little too late, actually a lotta too late
but it sure isn’t good to see what THEIR actions get ME!
More reasons to own a bike, the government can’t do shit!
What if car industry sponsored government doesn’t allow bike lanes?
I wasn’t asking for permission.
You don’t need bike lanes to ride!
You need bike lanes to encourage more people to ride
Not many people are willing to take a lane
Not yet.
Not ever!
As someone who always hated to get stuck behind a bike while driving, I like bike lanes because it means the bikes never get in my way.
I’m opposed to a vehicle that maxes out at 20mph riding in a lane that’s 35mph or above. For safety reasons as well as the inconvenience. I always felt nervous passing bikes on the road, and often the cyclist would look at me like I’m an asshole for it, but ain’t no way I’m going all the way to where I’m going doing half the speed limit, and it’s selfish for someone to think I should just because they chose to take a slower vehicle.
Bike lanes solve this problem. Bikes and cars go different speeds, and each has their own lane so they don’t get in each other’s ways and there are no close calls.
I don’t understand why car people are opposed to bike lanes.
If I’m correct, roads were for everyone, then they decided to make it only for cars and the rest has to fight to have small strips dedicated for them because they supposedly get in the way.
And about the cyclists. They might be assholes, or you might be passing too close or too fast.
Different classes of vehicle that have significantly different speed capabilities should have separate lanes. Bikes, tractors, horse-drawn buggies; it’s a safety hazard to force them to share a lane with automobiles.
I try to minimize the amount of time I’m in the wrong lane of traffic. If a car comes around the next corner while I’m passing, the cyclist is gonna be a lot more upset when I have to suddenly swerve back into the right lane. So I pass as quickly as possible. If he wants me to crawl past only doing a couple mph faster than he’s doing, well, that’s not gonna happen.
Also, if my car doesn’t accelerate very fast, I need to get up to speed in order to pass. It’s not just a quick little blip when I’m starting from 15 or 20 mph. So if it makes him nervous when my engine revs, maybe he shouldn’t be riding a bike in traffic?
I can go slower if I stay in the correct lane, but that gives the bike less space. I can give the bike more space by going into the other lane, but then I’ll have to go faster. Pick your poison. I’d be a jerk if I passed both close and fast. But either close or fast is a practical necessity, and if you get upset that I didn’t do neither then you’re the jerk.
Or roads are too narrow for the guy who can’t even hit half the speed limit to be safely passed and is now blocking all traffic…
That’s the magic, I then bike off road.
They will
It cracks me up to see bike companies adding wireless electronic shit to bikes, like, shifting and turn signals. Those bikes will die while my 2008 trek hybrid keeps rolling.
Man an e bike is the shit though if you live in a hilly city, that one is def not a gimmick lol
It’s a gimmick if it requires phone app or internet connection. An electric motor doesn’t need to connect to a server in order to work.
The most advanced electronics on my light with 3 different modes that switch when you press the button.
In time of crisis bikes are THE best transportation mode.
Yeah, canoe or kayak are also good choices. They are basically the bikes of the sea.
Don’t take a canoe or kayak out into blue water. They are really only useful in brown water.
Sea kayaks are a thing, one dude got from Germany to Australia in one in the 30s.
Huh, TIL. I wouldn’t want to be on a craft that small in the ocean.
Open ocean is still a bad idea for lots of reasons, there’s little room for navigation equipment or food or water or emergency supplies or a way to dry off and get warm… But they seal up pretty well so you won’t sink and rolling upright is a pretty basic skill.
Is there really much need to go more than a few miles from shore though?
Depends on your intended destination, I suppose.
@Korhaka @RockBottom Keep your old bikes in good working order, they’ll probably start requiring tracking devices on new ones soon.
Should be easy enough to remove for regular bikes, ebikes might be a little more annoying.
If you can’t disassemble your Ebike with a few spanners and a few allen keys then you bought the wrong Ebike.
We were due for a new car, but because of all the data garbage wasn’t keen on brand new. My wife found a 2004 car in mint mechanical condition and pristine interior, so went back in time.
Maybe a company somewhere will recognize this emerging market.
For tractor’s someone in Canada has figured it out.
Too bad they didn’t go electric, though.
Getting ads for vibe coding on that article is so funny
There is an EV company that understood and is make a blank Slate truck. I think the initial PR said no radio or navi, just a blank dash. Because people who want nav could add it or use a phone. Drops Costa by staying simple.
Slate is backed by Bezos.
Aw crap
Does it have a flux capacitor?
Even ebikes are going to shit with all their DRM, if you want a high end one
Dystopian. This shit is going to be everywhere.
I’m so glad I bought a homestead and live in the middle of no where
There’s a movie scene in that. Protagonist is being chased, desperately tries to start the car.
“acoustic lip reading”? Reading lips by sound waves wouldn’t they just put a microphone in there?
Theres probably sone regulation against actually just recording the conversation…
But they’re doing that too… for “ad monetization”
Ad selection may be local to the device.
Most states require two party consent to record audio otherwise it’s wiretapping.
Acoustic ultrasonic distance mapping isn’t counted as wiretapping. They aren’t recording your speech, they’re inferring your speech.
It’s actually the other way around. There are only 11 two-party consent states. All the rest, plus DC are single-party consent, but usually the single consenting party has to be one of the participants of the conversation.
inb4 “By buying this vehicle, you consent to use recording every interaction you have within and outside the cab.”
No surprise coming from a company that was founded by a nazi and also build most cop cars.
Just get whatever car you want, disconnect the cell network antenna, and connect that wire through a resistor to ground. The car will forever think it’s outside of cell signal range and will operate with none of the connectivity features, none of the spyware, none of the ‘emergency’ controls.
There’s maybe still a bit of concern about your car preserving data on its internal storage that you’d rather it not preserve, but other than that, this is a simple fix that solves all the ‘car is too high tech’ issues. If you don’t know how to do it yourself, I’m sure you can find some independent mechanics who will do it for you.
Ah congrats, not only have you voided your warranty, but your insurance company now refuses to insure your vehicle, and it cannot be legally driven.
That is where this is headed.
Where it’s headed? Maybe…
But that’s definitely not where it is now. A small, reversible modification like this won’t void your warranty in any meaningful way (unless you then go in to make a warranty claim about your connectivity features not working). And no insurance company is going to care whether you’ve disconnected the internet connection antenna – even if they wanted to … how would they know?
Insurance wants the data so they can use it jack your rates up and have even more excuses to not cover claims.
The insurance companies already have dongles that “give you a discount” (read: price-gouge anyone not using them) for snooping on your driving. I’m sure they’re very excited for that functionality to be built into all cars so they have an excuse to make it mandatory for providing coverage.
I bet they got a failsafe for that too. Like 2 weeks to a month later, you get something of a hard fail error that shuts everything down and forces you to contact the manufacturer for maintenance…
Possibly, I suppose. Nothing is stopping them from doing that. Though it would be a huge dick move, and it might end up exposing them to a lot more warranty claims than they planned on if something goes wrong with that ‘car kills itself if it goes too long without cell signal’ system.
Like … suppose a perfectly normal owner leaves his car parked inside an underground parking garage or a metal shed while he goes on vacation … and then comes back a few weeks to a month later and finds out that his car won’t work at all? Now the dealership is on the hook for towing fees, half an hour of technician labor to reset the system, and maybe even the use of a loaner car for a day. That potential cost seems to really outweigh the ‘benefit’ of preventing any owner from purposefully disconnecting their car.
Anyway, if you somehow end up with a car like that, then you might need to be a bit more creative in the solution: instead of connecting the antenna wire directly to a resistor, you’ll need to connect it with a 2-way switch. One position on the switch connects it to a grounded resistor, the other position connects it to the original antenna. Then you just have to remember to occasionally turn the car’s spyware on for a few minutes every month or two, just long enough to reset its internal self-destruct timer. (Though it is possible that it might be collecting data while disconnected and then sending that collected data once the connection is reestablished. In that case, this isn’t a very good solution, though it would at least prevent them from fucking with you in real time.)
Media players for cinemas have something broadly similar - if a clock in a media board drifts too far (outside about five mins) it requires a tech to hard reset it. You get two of these a year.
Outside that it permabricks $20,000 of equipment and you can go fuck yourself.
There’s probably a fuse you could just pull instead that shuts down that entire system
Possibly… But it’s likely that the internet modem is integrated together with the car’s radio head unit, or at least pulls power through the same fuse. Since it’s fairly unlikely that they have a single fuse that only powers the cell connection, the fuse-pulling approach is likely to disable other things as well, possibly some pretty important things.
Going after the antenna wire ensures that you only disable the internet connection, nothing else.
I’m doing both. I want these systems totally offline. If I could, I’d tear them the f out of the car entirely. This shit is evil.
I mean you don’t own public transit anyway so maybe this will renew a public transit push.
Why does this video feel like AI? Not trying to cast doubt on the content by any means - fuck car manufactures (and iirc Mercedes is already doing something similar), but the random speeds and weird inflections make this feel like AI slop.
Pretty sure it’s slightly sped up, which might be giving it an uncanny feel.
Oh that makes sense. I specifically don’t watch videos sped up because I hate how it feels lol. It’s hard not to be suspicious of everything I see on the internet though too.
