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I’ve found fanbases are often split between the best and worst people around without much in the middle. It usually comes down to WHY they enjoy the thing.
Star Trek space travel and the social commentary versus pew-pew. R&M science fiction concepts versus being a drunk asshole. Warhammer as satire versus …whatever they think it is.
Now look, you can think lasers are cool or that one jerk is funny, but if that’s all you got… yikes.
Rick and Morty
Definitely this! I lost my love of the show after the 4th season due to the fans.
Yeah, I kinda fell off around then as well. I started watching sometime around the end of season 2 airing, and I remember how fun and exciting it was. I’m not sure the show was meant to go on as long as it did. I think that’s a big problem with things getting popular too, is this desire to keep things going past their expiration date.
Credit where it’s due, Netflix does the limited series thing and I like that. Let’s state from the beginning: this is it. Now, Netflix also just cancels shows it shouldn’t, and that’s massively disappointing, so debit where it’s due too (that’s an opposite of credit but obviously not the right one but I can’t think of the word and I gotta wrap this thing up).
I think in this case the word is deficit not debit
Thanks that’s definitely the word. Just had bankcards in my head for some reason, and time was of the essence.
What happened? I only lightly watched the show.
They turned into a pickle, funniest shit I ever seen.
That’s when I stopped watching. It was so stupid that it just turned me off.
The joke was that there was no joke, Rick is just being an asshole and disappointing everyone around him. But between that and the shezuan sauce incident, I realized the fandom has literally zero media literacy, they’re just clapping at shapes and colors.
Everyone’s media literacy, reading comprehension, ability to appreciate nuance or capacity to consider multiple non-mutually-exclusive ideas in their head at once is vanishing.
It’s actually so fucking depressing to see how many people who I agree with politically and ethically are also kind of stupid and seem to have peaked intellectually.
I don’t know if its gotten worse, we should expect it to have gotten better now that people consume more media than ever.
If judging from my trump-supporting, boomer extended family playing Jimmy Hendrix’s Star Spangeled Banner at a 4th of July cookout, it was always terrible.
These include people who are still mad at Jane Fonda and blame the vietnamese for defending themselves.
That, and the music episode (get schwifty?) are apparently wildly popular while also being the two worst episodes. Make it make sense.
A lot of folks have watched the show and come to the conclusion that it’s an endorsement of their lifestyles which they view as similar to Rick at the start of the series, plus the extremely toxic behavior that comes along with the impression that you’re better than everyone and your intelligence justifies any behavior you are criticized for
Yeah. Used to be like that. What a shitty way to live. Denying any need to change by claiming superior intelligence over the people suggesting change, even though you’re desperately unhappy.
Are you kidding? I’m totally Jerry.
Thanks. Sort of like MAGA light.
Star Wars. It’s not perfect, and sometimes bad, but avoiding the fanbase gives me peace.
No one hates star wars / Trek like star wars / Trek fans.
It’s not easy, but you can like them both and still dislike the fans.
I find it extremely easy to like both and dislike the fans!
It’s the rule of 3! For both Star Wars / Trek, I only like 3 movies / series!
Which ones? [Hehe…]
I’m old school. For SW it’s the OG trilogy all the way. For Trek it’s TOS, TNG, and DS9!
“All ‘jedi’ had was a bunch of muppets.”
Yes and the imperial legion was destroyed by a bunch of muppets with hand made forest weapons and log traps!
I actually liked the most recent star wars movie. there I said it.
I desperately hope you don’t mean episode 9.
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but damn, do you even like the rest of it? Or other sci-fi and fantasy in general?
The absolute disrespect of not bothering to try to create a coherent world in episodes 7-9 was staggering.
If a piece of media’s plot or storytelling is a bit meh, that’s forgivable, but when you’re just straight up not bothering to think of the logistics or established rules within a fantasy/sci-fi world? Please no. Please stop.
Or at least be writing something supernatural where there are barely any rules and you can hand waive whatever you like.
I’m not the biggest fan of 9, I liked the mandalorian movie
Ah, I haven’t been keeping up to date! Shall check it out :)
Not in love with all of Disney star wars, but Andor is hands down the greatest Star Wars I’ve seen, so I’ll forgive them for the rest of the stuff I don’t like as much (not including Star Wars episodes 7-9, straight to jail)
I just couldnt get into andor, and I say that thinking the best star wars movie is rogue one lmao. it was just a little bit too much talking for me.
I gave up on it midway through season two, maybe I’ll give it another shot now that xmen 97 ended its second season
I suppose we just enjoy different things about Star Wars then, for me it’s all about the world building, and seeing how characters act within it, the battles and action are just a climax to everything else (I feel this way about all sci-fi and fantasy).
Not saying you only watch it for the battles, but I do mostly watch it for the talking haha
It’s why I still very much enjoy the prequels, despite them being pretty shoddy on the plot (Anakin’s fall could have been written soooo much better written it hurts. Probably would have needed an extra movie to really sell it though. The Clone Wars TV show episode where Tarkin and Anakin meet for the first time was great if I recall correctly. It made kinda make sense why Anakin bought into fascism in the end.)
To me there’s no such thing as a food sci-fi and fantasy without politics (in the sense that there’s some disagreement which motivates people). More trade disputes and blockades please, less holdo maneuvers that break existing rules of the world. The holdo maneuver would have been great to destroy the Death Star with some Kamikaze X-Wings jumping to hyperspace through it…
The battles, to me, are only interesting if one fleshes out the world and the political disagreements.
I once started watching a Chinese fantasy show (was learning Chinese, and like sci-fi/fantasy) and it opened with a 10 minute battle, no context. Immediately turned it off, like why do I care, show?
The Mandalorian and Grogu or Rise of Skywalker?
mandalorian.
I like that one as well. It’s cool to watch Mando do PG John Wick stuff, Rotta the Hutt was a surprisingly chill dude which was neat, and that part in the middle that was all puppets was a lot of fun to watch. Babu Frik was (in my opinion) the only good part of Rise of Skywalker, and the other little dudes in Mandalorian and Grogu were just as fun!
The fucks a grogu
Baby Yoda: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grogu
That’s not a baby yoga that’s a glug shitto
Honestly, linux for me (yes I know where I am). Love the software and options, but holy shit is the fanbase incredibly opinionated and full of condescension about it. Also they don’t know how to shut the fuck up about it, and constantly bring it up where it doesn’t belong. Like its a personality trait to them or something.
For many, it is. Autism, hyperfixation, and passion are needed to do something like create an OS from scratch, pick and choose any of the 3 to then use it in an incomplete state.
Id argue we’re finally at the point where you actually dont need any of those, just a willingness to learn and adapt
it’s a tool for a job for me.
to them, it’s a religion.
lemmy.world/c/formula1 is small enough that we occasionally acknowledge a race happened.
Or liking things that doesn’t have a big fan base works too. For instance, a lot of novels.
Meanwhile, when novels do have a relatively large fanbase, boy, better stay away from them
That is such a ravenclaw thing to say.
Brb, writing GRRM a letter asking him to finish writing my slop before he dies.
First two books of ASoI&F were pretty good, I thought. Then the rest were just him writing himself in circles, ever more slowly. Then the TV adaptation came out, to initially great acclaim, and then ended with a damp fart.
Yes, there were more problems with the end of the show than just his plot, or lack of it, but I can’t see that the ending will be redeemed without substantial changes, and his skills as a writer don’t really extend to “writing towards the desired ending”.
I think if we do ever get a conclusion to the book series, it will be written by someone else; I believe he’s left instructions to destroy all his notes and work-in-progress when he dies?
I believe he’s left instructions to destroy all his notes and work-in-progress when he dies?
Do you trust it to be more profitable to follow those instructions or to disobey them?
Ive found Dungeon Crawler Karl fans are really nice people.
And yet the Brandon Sanderson fandom is pretty non-toxic.
Even if you interact with the fandom, you are certainly not doing it in public, be it on forum, Reddit, Lemmy or Discord, you will encour the risk of gettin flashed with either some strange images or see other things you don’t wanna see and this get worse the bigger the fandom get
Most ‘nerd’ stuff. Comic book movie discussion has gone to shit because people have become weird about it. When it’s not manosphere bullshit, it’s people expecting Endgame level quality and stakes for every single movie now, who would’ve shat on Iron Man if it came out today, and who need to be reminded of the absolute horse shit that we used to get. They’re starting to rival the Star Wars fans in terms of being insufferable.
Outside of the cosy games spaces that I’ve been hanging around, all I ever hear from Gamers™ is some controversy about a female character being a game. Or gasp a black character. They’re happy with the main protagonist being a woman if the jiggle psychics are set to max though.
And online at least, the alternative scene has gone to shit. People from the anti jock subcultures started listening to jocks with microphones on podcasts. People who grew up listening to Jonathan Davis singing about being called a “faget”, went on to become people who call others “betas”. Metal went from representing rebellion to representing people who go “stop making it political”.
And so many ‘punks’ seem to have become Joe Rogan fans too. I’ve even had to argue with people calling me a “woke lefty” in fan spaces for The Clash. We all laughed when Joe Rogan said “conservative is the new punk” but it’s an even bigger joke because half the people that took his word for it were punks.
Rick and Morty.
Fallout.
Star Wars.
Magic (except my friends).
Absolutely every single anime I ever watched.
Terraria has a unusually thirsty fanbase that never fails to disgust me.
Did I mention Fallout?
Hot Take: Fallout the show is mid. Every season the actors try to save the script, but it dies anyway.
I think I forgot to mention Fallout.
Silo better
Oh right, I had totally forgotten! I was wondering when 4 or 76 got so popular but the show fellout recently! That explains it pretty well lol.
Care to elaborate on the Terraria fanbase? I never got into the game, always liked starbound more, but I could not get from them anything besides condescension regarding any other 2d-survival-whatchamacall-this-genre games. It’s terraria or nothing else.
There is absolutely no problem with Terraria itself. It’s an amazing game and my critique wasn’t directed at the fandom as a whole but at the subreddit. It was a dwelling place for furry porn artists who can’t fathom the concept of a NSFW tag. Also the mods rolled with it. So when I opened the app there was a great chance of the top of my feed being shitty porn drawings. Which I do not enjoy.
I also just checked and yeah. It seems like it got worse.
Warhammer/Warhammer 40k
Love the games an the lore but I wouldn’t touch the fandom with a 10 foot pole. Some of the absolute worst degenerates in there…
My experience is 50/50. Half the fandom are smart enough to see the lore is mostly satire meant to be silly exaggeration, the other half has a power fantasy from different, but overlapping backgrounds (misogynist, racist, homophobic, etc).
People that consider the Imperium the good guys.
Sonic the Hedgehog for me. I love the franchise, but I stay clear of the fandom. So many weird people latch onto Sonic stuff and make it all icky and creepy. I guess that’s what happens when a company like SEGA claims “Everything is canon.”
Also perverts. I was absolutely obsessed with Sonic Archie comics and finding forums as a kid was how I learned about furry porn. Scarred and older, a decade later, saw how cool Sonic Mania was and wanted to interact with others. And there it was again… Pervert shit.
I’ve been mostly obsessed with the comics as well. I built a website just to track all the comics and arrange their covers in proper reading order.
It’s out of date right now (I’m currently working to get it updated, actually), but all the Archie Sonic comics are listed in order. You can check it out here.
Hey this is really cool! It has like a nice retro website vibe!
People like you make the internet awesome!
I at least like that a few pieces of Sonic media lampshade this.
In one episode of Sonic Boom (a show designed to be watched high by adults) he’s kidnapped by an aardvark that’s a rabid fan.
“Oh! N-no, I wasn’t trying to escape, I was just…reading some of this fanfiction! Ooh. Sonamy, spicy!”
“Oh. Yeah, I don’t really even care for it, but it seems requisite for the readers.”This is kinda funny for me because “Sega” is an Italian slang to say “masturbation” which seems rather fitting to the fandom
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sega
Amazing. I will never see it the same.
Truly the most elegant language ✨
Skoolies for me. A few years ago I bought a used school bus and started converting it into a motorhome. I made an account at the main forum (skoolie.net) because there were people there that actually knew useful stuff, primarily about metalworking (which I’d never done before) and the mechanical aspects of bus ownership (which I still don’t know shit about).
Surprisingly (or maybe not) skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers. There are exceptions but they always end up being driven away. The thought of going to one of the annual skoolie gatherings is nightmare fuel for me.
skooliers heavily tend towards being right-wing, trump-loving, gun-toting, immigrant-hating wankers.
Years ago my dad bought an old school bus because he wanted to convert it into a motor home with private bathroom and a garage in the back for his motorcycle for trips to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
Apart from the fact that he never got around to doing any work on the bus and eventually gave up and unloaded it on someone, your description would have been completely accurate.
Your dad did the right thing. I got mine 95% done at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars and arthritis basically everywhere, just for the honor of paying $100 a month to park it at a U-haul lot. I know how to weld and rivet now, just as useless as the bus.
Definitely useful skills if you ever need to fix any metal furniture or make a metal structure.
all the people i have known in metalwork or maker spacers were all far-left and kept injecting their politics and insecurity about being ‘authentic’ and ‘cool’ into everything. it’s a major turn off.
i have no idea how heating up pieces of metal to merge them together or other stuff like that has anything to do with politics, but people can’t help themselves. Also these spaces in my experience… were all well-off white people desperately trying to ‘signal’ they were not like ‘white people’.
anyways, i take those kinda classes and hobby things at adult education centers and libraries and such… because no politics. a lot older crowd though but a lot less massive insecurity and injection of identity insecurity into everything. turns out the really cool people are the boring uncool ones.
insecurity about being ‘authentic’
This insecurity about being authentic has pervaded so many things, even absent any real political context. LIke people will suddenly whip out “You know, nachos aren’t really authentic Mexican food, they’re Tex-Mex cuisine.” Okay, what do you expect me to do in that situation, spit it out and go “Ugh, that’s disgusting!” Authentic or not, they’re still delicious. I totally get pursuing authenticity when you’re trying to preserve a culture and are worried it’s under threat, but it gets brought into absolutely ridiculous contents, often by people who have no real basis or authority to be the arbiters of authenticity for what they’re discussing in the first place as a way to try and make themselves seem more worldly.
What. Have you ever been to Texas? Queso is tex-mex. Nachos are something else. Queso is better.
Wasn’t really a competition, just for illustrating a point. I’ve only passed through Texas for a layover, but honestly, Texas as a state has zero appeal to me. I’d rather just go to Mexico for better versions of pretty much anything in Texas that’s remotely interesting to me, while avoiding a fair chunk of the things that make Texas so miserable a prospect to me in the first place.
Besides, Texans might have improved upon nachos at some point, but claiming you have a superior version doesn’t invalidate that nachos have already been widely accepted as a Tex-Mex dish. “Nachos are a Tex-Mex dish” is the opening to the wiki article on them, with 8 different citations to back up that claim.
Alloys are intrinsically liberal. Keep metals pure!
It was so weird to study in STEM and meet other Star Trek fans in the cantina. Now there is something wrong with Wesley Crusher and I’m supposed to hate him and project that on the child actor, too? And when Jeri Ryan is nice enough to come all the way to a European convention, they yell “strip”? (At least they were disgusted as well about the latter, just reported others doing it.)
No thanks, I’ll hang out with decent people.
I really have a hard time reconciling the Trek fans with the shows. Like, how did a person watch [insert any Picard speech] and end up this way?
I have no idea what you’re talking about, but that’s probably a good thing for me.
My exception to this rule is Pokémon ROM hacks, relatively small fan base though which helps
I have found another.
Did you try Phoenix Red 2.0 yet? I’m also excited for the 2 demakes of Alola that are upcoming.
I haven’t! I’m going through Elysium for the first time on an Rg34xx, feels sooooo cool.
The Aloha ones are like my most anticipated games on the horizon, not just for rom hacks but full stop! Lazarus was easily my favorite game of the year, I’m really trying not to do a 4th play through lol
Lazarus was so good. I ended up throwing speed up on to shiny hunt all the static encounters towards the end of the game. Was a great time.
Plus I loved the Alolan Raichu buff. Surge Surfer creating an electric terrain + Choic Specs/Focus Sash meant that my Raichu was dominating. Just had to watch for the occasional sucker punch or pursuit haha.
I had fun with Odyssey, too. I’m not as excited for Odyssey 2, however. Not really sure why actually.
Pokémon fans make the best Pokémon games and it’s not even close
Every few years I find a kpop act I like but holy shit, the fanbase is fucking horrible. I’d rather try getting into League again before I’d interact with those creatures.
There’s so many bands I love and I don’t even have a clue what they look like much less know anything about their fan base
you’re not missing much.
whenever i go to a live show these days i’m like one of 5 people over the age of 30, and everyone else looks like a teenager who is still growing.
That’s fine, I’ve met some really interesting people both much younger and older than myself in this life.
