Flight instructor: “Do your best, lol.”
Two people enter one person leaves in the flying thunderdome
story about suicide
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This sort of this should get websites permabanned from Lemmy as a source.
Fuck you, dexerto
My name’s not dexerto and stop telling me to fuck off! I’m sick of everyone ganging up on me!
student pilot successfully landed a plane by herself
Illustration picture is a man.
This is infuriating.
That’s a picture of the instructor not the student
I thought it was some rando pilot they found.
“We need a picture of a pilot for this tragic story. Not smiling, stupid.”
Who cares about the instructor?
Probably his family that’s still processing and mourning his odd suicide.
Attempted homocide, you mean?
Suicide harms more than the individual committing it, yes.
There’s also the wreckless abandonment of a person under your immediate proxy
She’s 22, quite possible she didn’t want her photo being put online
Are you not entertained??
Incredibly cruel. What a monster.
Mens mental health is already a disaster, but in the airline industry it’s made worse by the fact that you can lose your piloting license just by seeking help. This is a tragic story. I’ve joked about this story elsewhere, but I’ve learned more about it since then.
Very similar in law enforcement as well.
I personally worked alongside three people who committed suicide for years in our tiny district of maybe 50 patrol deputies over the span of about three years. Kirk Keithley was my zone partner for a long time, then it was Terry Strawn, and then finally Daniel Leyden.
Of course, they also murdered their S/Os and other family members as well, so I’m not exactly pouring one out for them, but it’s an undeniable trend more broadly - that spaces that theoretically require the utmost in mental health often paradoxically result in mental health crises because of the stigma and practicality of undermining your paycheck; when the problem is still solvable, it’s “not big enough of a deal to risk my job over it.”
It’s a messy picture with cops, too because that job so strongly attracts cluster B personality types. You’re not just working a job that is institutionally trying to drive you crazy (Killology seminars and all), but the job itself is highly attractive to the most unstable people in society.
True. It’s a mess.
Pedantically that doesn’t take away from your point but asserting just for clarity because I see people bring it up a lot:
The infamous Killology lecture isn’t taught to the vast majority of law enforcement in the US as I understand it. We certainly didn’t receive it (or similar) at my academy.
I’ve heard it isn’t quite as bad as cherry-picked-and-taken-out-of-context-to-malign, but I’ve personally never watched it, much like I haven’t read Mein Kampf; “That seems like a soup sandwich of nasty, so I’m not going to waste my time.”
It should be the other way around. LEO should be required to get regulator mental health help. It’s a stressful job, potentially dangerous, they’re armed and have people’s lives in their hands. We need to make damn sure they are capable of handling that with a sound mind.
As previously mentioned, they simply bottle it up. It’s not hard to “I’ve never had any suicidal ideations” your way out of any mandatory screening as currently implemented. Some are better at rooting out deception like that, but apparently that’s not in the budget. I received an MMPI-style questionnaire and subsequent interview, but so did all three of those peers I mentioned who passed just the same as I did. Hell, one of my academy classmates told the psychologist he thought he was Batman. When pressed for why, he relented and said it was an outburst because he was distraught due to his goldfish dying. He obviously made it through with a Pass and I think is still on the force many years later? His social media is intentionally obscure so it’s hard to say.
Truth be told, reforming law enforcement in this and other ways is simply not politically motivating for most Americans; they’re generally either focused on other single issues, “The police are perfect and criticizing them is immoral,” or “The police are all bastards and need to be abolished.”
I’m not dumb enough to tell everyone I meet I was a cop so all of my discussions about the matter are generally relegated to the internet, but of the people I bump elbows with on the topic on Reddit, 90% of the time it turns into name-calling and other bad faith tactics. The other evidence I use is… -gestures broadly at the state of US politics-. Remember when people were marching in the streets to fix the police? Remember how it generally didn’t?
Man, I thought i disappointed some teachers.
Despite the shocking turn of events, Rosario managed to… safely bring the Cessna back to the airfield without damaging the aircraft.
What a bizarre thing to say. Well, phew, I guess. Lucky the aircraft wasn’t damaged by the single female pilot who already had her licence and was just building up hours. Me and all other males in the world would have expected her woman-brain to take over and cause her to panic-land while doing a backflip and simultaneously rolling her ankle or some shit apparently.
I’m seriously struggling to understand why “without damaging the aircraft” was added to the sentence.
Making the point about the damage is more relevant tan you making it a gender thing. But agree it was a strange note for a deadly situation.
Simple, people assume “student pilot” means doom without realizing how far along people fly with instructors.
I think it’s much to assume the surprise is about gender instead of the word “student”.
I suppose. However this line then doesn’t sit right:
[The] student pilot named Rosario already had a private pilot license but was still building up her flying hours
Strictly speaking she was in the role of a student, but it’s not like she didn’t know what she was doing. If she already had a private pilot licence, what else is there to assume?
She was flying with a flight instructor in the role of student. I think that’s enough for a lay person to take those words at face value, not knowing what a PPL means. Even if they searched it up, they’d see 40 hours of flight time, and that’s similar to the requirement to give a teenager a driver’s license, and it may be hard to square that with landing a plane, which is a very intimating task to people who have mostly never flown an aircraft.
I’ve seen similar stories about incapacitated flight instructors and celebration of student pilots making it out safely, and I think the reporting is similarly “surprised” about a mere “student” getting out unscathed whether male or female.
To reinforce the point: This is a very stressful situation to place an experienced pilot in where essentially your copilot commits suicide during the flight. I’m sure there are a lot of experienced pilots who might make a mistake in the shock of that scenario.
Because when you’re a student it’s easy to fuck up and break things. Clipping trees cuz he came in at the wrong angle, landing too hard and fucking up the landing gear, colliding with a telephone wire, you get the idea. Now imagine all of that studentness and also your instructor just committed suicide. Now that’s in your brain too. So yeah it’s irrelevant fact.
Yes this headline is clearly intended to reinforce the patriarchy rather than to get clicks and sound more suspenseful. And everyone was thinking about the pilot’s gender before you brought it up.
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It was sarcasm. Your sentence was fine except the typo which has nothing to do with language skills.
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what a piece of shit. you want to kill yourself, go to hell on your own.
Didn’t he though? He left the plane in the hands of a capable pilot. No one else was injured. No property was lost.
your honor i know i was in the bank with a gun and a bag full of money, but when i tripped and fell on my face and got caught obviously i didn’t keep the money, so is that really robbery if i never got a dime?
“Authorities initially looked at whether a mechanical issue with the aircraft may have played a role, but local reports say investigators are now treating the case as a possible suicide.”
this sounds like a suicide but… now hear me out. what if it was the hydraulic systems fault?
But seriously …… a more plausible path is that instructors sometimes create interruptions to ensure you know how to focus on the aircraft. My instructors would open windows at inopportune times: little did they know but it caused me to fly an aircraft with a canopy that can slide back during flight, a “convertible”. In aircraft where you can, I’ve definite heard of instructors opening doors during flight.
The plausible accident is exactly that: instructor opening a door as part of emergency training. Of course it’s much harder to explain lack of seatbelt, or how he got up from his seat
You have to be able to handle a door or window opening in flight because there can be mechanical failures where that happens. And if we’re stretching things, the student pilot panicking could cause a sudden jerk of the wheel, throwing an unrestrained passenger out. It could happen. Extremely unlikely but it could …… except the seatbelt.
Authorities initially looked at whether a mechanical issue with the aircraft may have played a role
I think they may have meant if there was a gas leak or something that might have affected his mind? Afaik there were some flight and diving accidents where that was a contributing factor.
Yeah, cabin monoxide comes up now and then
What if it was…Murder?!?
Why the fuck is this under “/entertainment” on that site?
Are you not entertained?
No, since there are no onions.
/s
Not with a porn that starts this way. I quite frankly couldn’t finish
His shift was over
Clock out time is clock out time, especially if you get in trouble for overtime.
- Me, fired over an overtime dispute
Álvarez later took off in another aircraft to search for Bertazzo and reportedly found his body in a field around 15 to 20 minutes after the alarm was raised
she got back in a plane RIGHT after that to find his body. damn.(edit: my dumb ass misread, see reply)what a fucked up situation
Álvarez is the company director, not the student
Eduardo Álvarez, director of Flying Parrot Córdoba, praised the student for keeping control of the plane during an extreme emergency.
ah shit my bad
I shit my bed, too
“They expect one of us in the wreckage brother!”
Massively selfish prick.
Hope there is a school or group she can file a lawsuit against.
She’s facing many hours of counseling. Not sure how well Argentina’s mental health coverage provides.
