can already tell this is gonna be the most insufferable comment section of all time
Wtf is wrong with this place, why is everyone fighting
And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?And why does it seem like they all hate Pewdiepie?
He took a fascist turn during Trump 1 and never really recovered his image. Got into a bunch of weird exploitative shit, not unlike Mr Beast. The most notable being when he tested the Fiverr service and paid five dollars to get Indian freelance actors to laugh and show a sign saying ‘Death to all Jews’.
After that, he started getting deplatformed and his following fell off considerably. So, like a bunch of other has-been YouTube starlets, he decided to get even more edgy and reactionary, further poisoning his image. It’s the same death spiral Russell Brand and Rob Schneider fell down.
Not to defend them or completely dismiss their part in all that, pretty sure it was just someone else sending the fiverr video to them and them opening it while streaming. But the latter incident, where they shouted some slurs on air while playing some game, that’s I think more inexcusable. But I always got the impression they never were actual nazi or far right despite the subject matter of the incidents, it’s more just them being an idiot and trying to be funny and edgy for content and missing the target entirely on a couple of occasions. I think the aftermath speaks for itself, they did some reflecting and ended up changing the formula and content type entirely, and we are now seeing the fruits of that effort.
I don’t mean to belittle the shit they’ve pulled, but I also don’t want to paint anyone irredeemable, even less when they actually manage to do introspection and change. We should encourage that and highlight that instead. I’d reserve the unconditional hate and spite for those that deserve it, that don’t change, don’t reflect, perhaps actually mean the things they do and say, with passion.
Damn, WSJ really succeeded in their campaign
I’m old. I never understood the appeal of that cunt.
Im old and I personally love him for being the same guy all this years.
He said the nword once (terrible thing), almost a decade ago, apologized for it and improved (I guess) as a person
I’m sick of internet people calling for a guillotine whenever someone makes a mistake even onceyeah, its part of why the internet sucks, you make some bad decisions, fall for some stupid propaganda or listen to the wrong person, and you’re branded forever. People make bad decisions. It happens.
gods forbid someone make a mistake and then take a step back to reexamine their lives to try and be a better person.
Maybe is because im not from US but i dont give a damn about this stuff. He is swedish so I totally get that he didnt gave a damn at the time either. This Nword stuff is a strange cultural trait of one of the most racial aware countries in the world that, btw, is very racist overall. And I agree that now he is more mature but I dont thing he essentially changed. He has been always very goofy and still is.
…Yeah man I’m American, don’t worry, you’ll never catch me arguing that America isn’t a racist country lol. This place fucking sucks, and that’s one of the big reasons why.
Like I said I truly do not care about Pewdiepie. I don’t want anything bad to happen to him, I wouldn’t go out of my way to make anything good happen for him, he’s just irrelevant to me and that’s fine for both of us I imagine.
Though I will say that if you elect to “not give a damn” about other people being exposed to racial slurs which make them feel dehumanized though, you’re an asshole and a privileged one at that. Just because it may not be particularly relevant in your culture (though, back on 420chan [I’m old], I remember Swedish people whining nonstop about the Somali immigrants in their country, so I’m not sure I’m entirely convinced that it isn’t a Swedish issue too) doesn’t mean you shouldn’t care about how it can hurt other people. Especially when said by someone with a global audience, especially when that global audience is largely children or teenagers.
But also, to reiterate my reiteration: I do not care about Pewdiepie and am not suggesting he be exiled from humanity, only that he probably shouldn’t do that again. Which it sounds like he hasn’t, so… good?
Well you sound about right in almost everything to be honest. Still I dont think he was that bad or that influential in terms of ideology just goofy and he probably now know that is better to not navigate this waters again. And well … I care about pewdiepie. To me he always was good and now is producing a net good for humanity so… very good?
This is a site populated mostly by the too edgy or too contrarian for Reddit, with the same flaws in incentive systems as Reddit, why are you surprised lol.
I mean I’m just here because of the API thing
Theres no place for nuance here, get outta here! /s
Having such a big influencer as Pewds shout out selfhosting, ad blocking and general privacy improvements is a huge win, no matter what your opinion is of him.
I’m always open to somebody’s redemption arc, even if I dislike them. The great thing about people is that we are capable of growth, even if not all of us always grow in the right direction, we always can.
What redemption? Where are his fediverse channels at?
…one step at a time, dude. This kind of thinking just serves to make perfect the enemy of good.
It takes 2 minutes to create an account on the fediverse, they are not interested in that, they are on youtube for the profits.
they [have a job] for [money].
Maybe us too, to be fair
There’s some irony in that sponsor block has to block four segments of the video.
I don’t think there’s any irony in people trying to make money with their work. And I’d much much MUCH rather have them insert multiple sponsors in a video that I can just skip over than worry about ads and their constant tracking.
I think he’s a tool, but credit where it’s due: it’s great that he’s supporting the movement, and he does have a huge following.
Maybe he’s the right tool for the job
The people hating on him clearly haven’t seen much of his content lately. He’s grown up and has his life together pretty well now. If you think nobody is deserving of a second chance then you do you, nobody is forcing you to watch his content. I honestly love his redemption arc and I’ve watched some of his content lately and really enjoyed it. And good for him that he likes self hosting and is doing all these pc DIY projects.
he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences, he merely fled to japan to avoid and waited til all the drama died down, he mostly isnt on a redeeming arc, everyone just forgot about him.
he dint really accept his/or dealt with the consequences,
- He publically apologized for it (no ukulele though, which is how you know it’s a fake apology)
- He didn’t do it again
What else would you want him to do?
And what consequences are you specifically talking about?
