• Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    23 days ago

    America, fast going backwards, has today reached 1969 1968, assuming that this mission succeeds.

    (Edit: this is not even a moon landing so more Apolo 8 than Apolo 11).

    • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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      23 days ago

      A truly pointless waste of money. This is what we did with all the cancer research money cut from NIH.

      While Whitey’s on the moon.

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        23 days ago

        Right, it’s definitely this and not the 200 billion dollar budget of ICE, or all the resources going towards the war in Iran right now.

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        22 days ago

        While Whitey’s on the moon

        At least the crew for this mission includes a black guy and a woman, unlike the 24 white dudes who crewed the Apollo missions.

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        23 days ago

        Terrible take. A lot of what we know in science is due to NASA research. NASA is <0.5% of the federal budget. There are plenty of egregious things we are wasting money on to be upset about - this is not one of them.

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          23 days ago

          And a lot of the NASA science budget was cut because it was too boring for the toddler administration who want to play with their flashy toys.

          • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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            22 days ago

            the budget was moved over to SpaceX on the lie of private sector efficiency. But to the credit of SpaceX, they did blow up more rockets than the inefficient NASA ever did.

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              18 days ago

              How can you look at SpaceX and not say they are much more efficient than NASA? It’s actually a good thing they blew up so many rockets as part of research and development. It allowed them to achieve a rocket that can do things no other rocket can, like landing back on it’s launch pad, at a fraction of the cost of a NASA rocket to boot. The phrase is move fast and break things for a reason. I am all for giving NASA more budget, but I also think we should invest in SpaceX technology. It’s clearly superior no matter what you thing of Elon and his cronies.

          • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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            23 days ago

            It was largely restored under the 2026 congressional budget at levels similar to 2025. The trump administration tried to punish centers in blue states by taking away their funding, the worst of which was Goddard with a 50% budget cut. Basically they tried to cancel nearly every earth observing science mission, which is Goddards bread and butter.

        • SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
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          22 days ago

          NASA is <0.5% of the federal budget

          that’s <0.5% more than cancer research.

          A lot of what we know in science is due to NASA research

          Someone not in STEM would say this. NASA has some important projects, this is not one of them.

          Sending up this rocket accomplishes NOTHING. This is an idiot project based on moon colony fantasy and a way to shovel more tax $ to Elon Musk and SpaceX while people clap and holler like idiots.

          This poem from 1970 illustrates exactly how far the US has progressed in 55 years:

          A rat done bit my sister Nell.

          (with Whitey on the Moon)

          Her face and arms began to swell.

          (and Whitey’s on the Moon)

          I can’t pay no doctor bill.

          (but Whitey’s on the Moon)

          Ten years from now I’ll be paying still.

          (while Whitey’s on the Moon)

          Except we can update 10 years to 20 years.

          • CptEnder@lemmy.world
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            22 days ago

            Someone not in STEM would say this

            So you then? Because anyone who has to work with grants to fund their research knows this isn’t how this works at all. Lmao go back to Reddit.

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      23 days ago

      It’s mostly about testing the vessel used, for future actually useful missions.

      There are some things they’re doing, but it’s scientifically not very much they couldn’t do with probes.

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      23 days ago

      I’m pretty sure they are doing some studies into immune systems in space, stress/sleep/cognition of astronauts and all that. From what I’ve read in the papers they will be taking regular saliva samples in preparation to do a lunar south pole mission… where they are worried about radiation? I dunno the specifics this is arm chair science on my part. I’m sure that one day when we finally send a man to uranus they can sample his saliva and figure out what’s going on down there if you know what I mean.

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        22 days ago

        I’m pretty sure they are doing some studies into immune systems in space,

        none of that relevant to disease on earth.

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          22 days ago

          How the fuck do you get that? We already have studies from the ISS which investigate the role of gravity in bacteriophage infections, which may be used to develop advanced anti-bacterial drugs

          But SaveTheTuaHawk knows better than all those microbiologists don’t they

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    23 days ago

    What’s the purpose of this mission? Are the resources spent on the mission and the pollution caused by it worth the purpose?

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      23 days ago

      Absolutely worth it. This is a test mission equivalent to something like apollo 8. A dry run for going to the moon and actually landing it.

      I’d wager it would be incredibly unsafe to go to the moon without a mission like this.

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      22 days ago

      The entire NASA budget is less than 3% of the US military budget. NASA or moon missions are really not the reason the US can’t afford health care

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    23 days ago

    Can’t we get a single article without mentioning how shitty the U.S is right now? Half of the comments here aren’t even ontopic.

    Going back to the moon is still an engineering feat, even if we’ve done it before. That was a generation ago, and all of those engineers are retired or about to.

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      22 days ago

      AFAIK, the service module is European, built by the ESA, so this is not 100% an American accomplishment.

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      23 days ago

      I don’t see the point of sending people to the moon or Mars. It will always be insanely expensive to do anything there, always. What is there to discover that can’t be done with robots? Doing it for the poetic sake of doing it--“going where no man has gone before”-- seems impractical and wasteful.

      Yes, we’ve done it in the past, exploring, that doesn’t mean we must keep doing it as it becomes more impractical, and with what benefits, exactly? Exploiting whatever resources are there? Is that really what we should be doing?

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        23 days ago

        Im on the same page. I feel we should concentrate on discovery with probes or rovers and such and automation. trying to mine something robotically on an asteroid. if we can do that then see if we can smelt it. See if we can create fuel in space and such. I don’t think we will progress at all till we can be sourcing and manufacturing in space.

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            22 days ago

            if thats the case then going into space is rediculous because if we at some point can’t source and build our there then there is no future out there.

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      21 days ago

      I would guess they’d explain it the same way they explain other rocket launches.

  • BeBopALouie@lemmy.ca
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    23 days ago

    I have now seen 2 moon launches live. Will I live to see them actually set foot back on the moon again. Who knows.

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    23 days ago

    Please don’t let it be cancelled and returned early because of a toilet That would just be too much. This is the first thing that has made me legitimately excited since having to unexpectedly say goodbye to my soul-dog last month. I need this, dammit.

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    23 days ago

    In 1969, the cold war filled the hearts of the world with dread. Today, we live in times that echo this sentiment.

    The launch of 1969 was made with the hope of a better future, and though we cocked it up a drainpipe the first time, maybe we’ll take the right path and echo the sentiment “for all mankind”.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      23 days ago

      This launch included a bunch of “American superiority” drivel, and was done on a rocket that is unsustainable and uses leftover parts from the last millennium.

      I wish they’d gone with “for all mankind” — instead they went with “America America” even though one of the mission specialists is Canadian and the module was made in cooperation with the ESA.

      • HuudaHarkiten@piefed.social
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        23 days ago

        Yeah I kinda cringed on that “god bless america” speech before the launch. Isn’t there 2 Canadians on board and a big part of the Orion was made/designed by ESA? All they got “and our partners around the world” in that speech.

        I’m happy that “we” are going back there but this propaganda sillyness is disappointing. I know its always been a part of governments doing space projects, after all I think the only reason “we” are going back there is because the Chinese are going back there. The disappointing thing is that when I was a kid I really thought we would be over ourselves by now, but turns out that seems to be impossible and we are just going back to throwing rocks at each others. Plaaargh.

        Anyway. Cool launch, that thing jumped off the pad as if someone kicked it in the nuts. Impressive stuff.

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        23 days ago

        It could be worse. It could be Trump claiming all the glory for himself and jinxing it to miserably fail like everything else that orange pedophile clown touches.

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          23 days ago

          Jesus, the shudder this comment just elicited gave me a crick in my neck… Someone distract the mango before he gets the astronauts killed…

          • runner_g@piefed.blahaj.zone
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            23 days ago

            that is a terrible insult and you should be ashamed of yourself! Mangos have never done anything to deserve being compared to our pedophile in chief

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    22 days ago

    I can’t feel excited about this This feels like part of a new US expansionist agenda.

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      22 days ago

      This is the culmination of a lot of hard work, blood, sweat, and tears from a lot of engineers. It is the furthest thing from expansionism.

      Its probably the only decent thing the U.S. is doing right now that I don’t feel bad about.

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          22 days ago

          They’re looping around it, going farther than any humans ever, and scanning the whole thing for mineral deposits and possible base construction sites. The plan is to build a base then shipyard to go out farther from there.

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      22 days ago

      Same, I just read it like: Somewhere under some fascist ultra right regime they achieved something. Can’t really get hyped about nazis doing cool stuff, because they do it for nazi reasons.

      Oh look kim yong un built a park. Putin openend a new school for gymnasts. Trump built golf resort on the moon. Yawn 🥱

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        22 days ago

        ESA built the service module which keeps the crew alive, and one of the Astronauts is Canadian. This is probably the most insulting response I’ve seen yet.

        This has also been in the works since 2017, through three administrations. All Trump had to so was not try to cancel them like a dumbass.