• WanderWisley@lemmy.worldOP
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      This is the new avocado toast slur that boomers are gonna use to describe the younger generations lack of not being able to afford anything.

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    Is there a place near where y’all work that lunch is still reasonably priced?

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    If you eat 28 lunch 3 times a day every day it will be $30660 per year. $30660 a year will not make you not poor in most of America, so might as well eat well.

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      $30k extra would make a huge difference, though. I get the point you’re trying to make, but your example is flawed. People shouldn’t have to choose between eating well and not having to work until they die. A more effective way to re-frame this would be “Why does lunch cost $28?”

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        would make a huge difference

        would make jack fuck. If there is no inflation (lol) and you want to scrounge enough money to have something to just about survive, you can start saving 30k per year right now, and in 53 years you will meet your goal.
        The realistic question is “will I be alive in 53 years” and realistic answer for most of us is “what the fuck of course no”. But if you’re a toddler and have some stupid ideas about the existance of the future still, then yeah, you could start asking why does lunch costs $28, or why do you need to not eat now to eat later, shouldn’t be there some smarter system about it.

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          Sounds like you know fuck all about finance. “If there’s no inflation.” Uh, yeah. That 30k a year is beating inflation by a LOT in any sort of investment.

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      That is your retirement right there. Plug those numbers into a retirement calculator.

      Was it worth it?

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        If you don’t afford yourself good things, and don’t spend any money, you can remove it from the economy so when you’re old and can’t work anymore, you can fight with billionaires to get a portion of that money back so you can afford one instance of medical help.
        Who am I kidding, there will be no medical care by the time you retire.

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    If I’ve read all the past posts from people in the USA correctly, it’s not lunch that’s expensive but the healthcare to stay alive.

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      This. I’m paying nearly $500 a month for shitty insurance that I literally can’t afford the co-pays to actually use. I would literally just go uninsured if my employer weren’t reimbursing me for the premium. It’s functionally the same thing.

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        I haven’t seen a doctor in over 20 years. I didn’t have insurance for most of that time. I’ve finally had insurance in the last five years or so, but now I can’t find a doctor my insurance covers that is taking new patients.

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        I work at a hospital that provides hospital based insurance for their employees. I paid more in copays to use their Physical Therapy staffed by PT students than it was to go to a local out of network PT place.

        They still couldn’t determine exactly how I injured my knee not how to help. This, in addition to all the steps it took to get to the Rehab referral aspect wiped out 2 years of my FSA

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    At this point, many people should just game the system to get a decent living.

    2 bedroom apartments cost what a mortgage can cost for a 4 bedroom new house in some places. Got a very trustworthy friend with good credit? Pay them for “housekeeping” while the only thing they’re cleaning out is the beer in the fridge while playing vidyagames. Let them show extra income and get a house. Be roommates. Have other roommates join in. Everyone hoard money while having cheap living in a nice new place.

    Is that fraud? Idk but I’m in a nice new house and hoarding money.

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      … you’re sort of just describing a housing co-op.

      Except that instead of it being a “particularly trustworthy friend” it’s a legal entity that everyone paying into has voting rights for.

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    I’ve seen this argument from people before, with avocado toast and Starbucks and everything else, but no one seems to ask why lunch is $28 or blame the people charging $28 for lunch as part of the problem

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    It’s insulting that this guy says 70k like it’s a low salary (for “kids” as he says). I make a quarter of that. I also know a lot more retired old people who never made close to that in their lifetime than ones who did make that much

    And if I did make that much it would still feel insulting because I’m pretty sure most people making 70k can easily afford weekly $28 lunches…

    Edit: Just saw that this motherfucker is wearing two expensive watches on the photo… absolutely repulsive person

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      Adjusted for inflation the average worker in the 80’s and 90’s made way more than 70k a yr. I made 60k in 2000, that’s $120k today.

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        Yeah the fact that the wages are stagnating is another thing, I’m just saying from where me and most of the people of all ages in my life are standing, 70k is a lot.

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          Depends on the city you live in and your situation. Single in a small town 70k good. Family of 4 in the city and you wouldn’t even qualify for a home loan and are probably in assistance.

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            70k is 3,5k/mo after taxes in my country. Doesnt really matter where you live with that you could be paying 2500 in rent and still be loaded for the month. Look all I’m saying is this O’Leary guy is a fucking prick and most people never see 70k in their lifetime

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              You say “loaded” but you wouldn’t be able to pay for college without debt, wouldn’t be able to buy a house, wouldn’t be able to afford to retire, or save much, couldn’t afford vacations, and couldn’t even afford a new economy car.

              That isn’t loaded, that’s being poor.

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                Well I make 15k and I feel poor. If I made 4-5x that I would no longer feel poor and could comfortably support not just myself but also theoretically my partner and a kid or two if I wanted to.

                But I still agree with everything you’re saying. We’re all getting sucked dry by the system and forced to toil our lives away for asshats like the guy in the Post who happen to own our workplace. The exploitation does not vanish with higher wages. And of course the costs of healthcare and education in the USA are way higher than where I live

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                  This is exactly what is expected to happen. People complaining/arguing but not complaining/arguing about the correct issue.

                  70k by everyone’s standards other than the top 1% is a lot of money, because we have always had to focus on surviving and can make that amount work. Life isnt going to be roses, but it will be life. It really does come down to buying power, but also priority. Back in the 70/80s buying tech (tvs, computers) was insanely expensive. Now you can pick up a 65in for like 200usd. Back in the 90s a new car was under 10k. Now a decent car bought new is 35/40k. Housing…I am not even going to touch it. I bought a 5 bedroom 2400sq ft for 89k in PA in the early 2000s, now that house on zillow is 350k. I only had it a year and I sold it for 85k after closing and everything. Prices for things have flipped for a lot of items that used to be luxury compared to necessity. That’s how we can afford avocado toast because we can only afford eggs/bread/ and a single avocado.

                  I dont want to start a 2nd argument, and I am not confident I am getting my point across. I just feel all that are here arguing should not be arguing amongst ourselves since we are essentially in the same boat amd should be putting our efforts at the real issue.

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      A lot of older folks made more than 70k by a fair margin when you account for buying power and quality of life.

      You have to adjust numbers for more then just inflation if you want a remotely accurate comparison.