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trump has been a priceless gift to the CCP at the exact right time for them.
It’s amazing how much power the US has given to China while China didn’t have to lift a finger or lose reputation.
If you had asked me 5 years ago, I’d have predicted that China would have a bigger and more powerful economy than the US within the century. Now I think it’s within the decade.
Name any country that China has invaded in the this decade compared to the US.
It is just so depressing the continous negative propaganda about China, mostly perpetuated by the US, where if you come visit China, visa free for most countries BTW, you’ll be amazed.
I know the obsession with the media and commentators about Taiwan. Almost begging China to invade because than they can point at them as the new evil and say ‘I told you so’.
However anyone who really follows the political situation in China, knows Xi is in all kinds of trouble and has no support for any invasion or war. From within the highest level of government. The focus is on economic growth and development.
China is playing its soft power well. After the US abandoned the WHO, China stepped in and pledged 500 million US$. But this doesn’t suit the narrative so never gets reported.
Still, there’s a certain level of authoritarianism that is not propaganda. In Canada the CCP has offices with the purpose of essentially kidnapping citizens that tried to leave. They still can’t talk about a certain event. Their treatment Uyghurs is awful. They can’t just leave Taiwan the fuck alone, nor Hong Kong.
“You’ll be amazed…by what we show foreigners” is not convincing me of fuck-all. I am not trading one authoritarian government for another just because they have some cool toys.
If you are in South East Asia, China is pretty belligerent in claiming the islands in South China Sea (Nine dash line)
But not to the level of fucking with trade and our livelihoods… So yea, fuck the US
Saber rattling is pretty common anywhere.
Always check your neighbours and keep them in your loop.
Yes but the South China Sea dispute has been around since 1899. It’s just been in focus more now due to more intervention by China.
The CPC’s policy towards Taiwan has been for peaceful voluntary integration since the '70s. They don’t want to go to war and kill their own people. The whole thing has always been western projection. They see the world as territory to conquer, so surely China is the same way
On some level I agree with the sentiment that China’s military power aspirations seem to be primarily regional with soft power as we zoom out I would argue for “Don’t listen what leaders say, watch what they do”.
You don’t build giant landing craft unless you consider a marine landing warfare scenario as credible. You don’t build aircraft carriers unless you care about power projection. You don’t need ballistic missiles unless your enemies are far away. All of these things cost money you could otherwise spend on keeping your citizens happy.
There are a lot of verifiable and expensive signals about China’s power posture transitioning towards a more expeditionary one. Now, they might end up carrying the big stick and speaking softly, which is better for everyone – even if the PRC ends up getting their way – but that just means the hard power lever was used in a different way.
I get what you’re saying, and don’t get me wrong, I’m no tankie - I don’t have any interest in defending China. But, to be fair, in this world, especially with the US breathing down their necks, I feel like it would be irresponsible not to ensure that they’re prepared for a war with the US Empire, who would most likely use the islands around China as bases to launch attacks. Amphibious landings would also be needed in those cases.
I genuinely believe they don’t want to invade Taiwan. They’ve had many opportunities to do so. They allied with the KMT against the Japanese Empire before. China is quite a nationalist country, it seems quite self-evident to me that they would prefer to not kill Chinese people whenever it is an option.
At least China is still consistent. The US is now bipolar.
Not just bipolar, but rapid cycling too!
As US citizen so do I.
Careful now. NSPM-7 means comments like this could get you “deported” because its anti-American.
We probably shouldn’t encourage people to comply in advance with fascism, even jokingly
Ditto
China’s not perfect and they do a lot of shit. But at least they are not ruled by a spoiled octogenarian brat that throws hissy fits on its free time during its workdays consisting on market rigging to earn more money and raping kids.
So yeah, of course we see that shithole as a more dangerous threat. At least you can talk with China.
I’m kinda tempted to whip out that community meme with a “human rights violations I can stand, but I draw the line at market destabilization!”, but I’m pretty sure we’re imprisoning and brutalizing more Latinos and other migrants than China is Uyghurs and other marginalized communities over there at this point
We have more people in prison that China does even though they have 4x our population. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarceration_rate.
Shart of the deal 😆. Well done Rump.
This could be true. Trump is threatening to take Greenland. In contrast, China unlike Russia is not threatening Europe.
Only Taiwan
Americans regularly make the mistake of assuming that other countries will behave like America, even when the evidence points the other way.
If China actually wanted to invade Taiwan it’s hard to imagine a better time to do it than right now. The US has used up almost all it’s supply of Patriot interceptors and JASSM long range cruise missiles. We used up all our most effective ammunition attempting to bully Iran and even pulled ordinance out of the Pacific theater to do so.
On top of that the global economy is on shaky ground. This would be the most difficult time to try to put together a coalition to sanction China. It doesn’t help that they control many of the precursor resources that we need for our advanced weapons systems.On the other hand, they’ve demonstrated that their geography gives them an option vis a vis Taiwan that the US does not have with Iran, they can force capitulation without a ground invasion. Taiwan is so close to mainland China that they can completely blockade the island. They’ve done it several times and gotten away with it just fine. They do this ever time anyone gets near their “red lines”; that’s basically any formal declaration of independence.
So the evidence points us to two obvious conclusions:
- China will not invade Taiwan unilaterally.
- If China does decide to use force, they’ll do so with a blockade.
They will get Taiwan though talks. They won’t invade because the US says it will bomb TMSC factory is China tries. It’s not worth the risk for China to try to invade. But they will get it though talks soon.
China definitely considers the downsides of all the options in front of them.
When it comes to Taiwan, US intervention of any sort is now likely much lower on their list. They’ve been dumping funds into SMIC. Although they’re not on par with TSMC yet, they’re catching up fast. On top of that, the US would have a much harder time blowing up their factories (plural). They’ve used up most of the munitions that they could use to do it with and there’s no safe way to get a ship into firing range of Taiwan.
The biggest incentive is cost. Why fight over something that (as you pointed out) they can get through talks? It may take longer but it’s much cheaper that way.
Correct but Europeans probably view Taiwan as something far away.
That’s obvious, but I wonder where they put US in comparison to Russia
The US has enjoyed a strong alliance with Europe for decades. US and European economies are interconnected and interdependent. Europe expect the US to behave like an ally, the current Trump government does not.
Trump is hostile to Europe, but the entire American apparatus, soft and hard power, economic influence was built on this alliance. This makes the US more dangerous, more unpredictable then Russia. That makes the US a bigger threat, because the US can cause so much more damage to Europe. The US is actively supporting the only undemocratic government in the EU that fully support Russia against Europe.
Russia is killing European, Russia is committing war crimes every days, Russia is conquering Europe, Russia is destabilizing European democracies, Russia is spreading hate and misinformation.
Russia is a more direct and explicit threat to Europe then the US. The US has the capacity to do much more damage because Europe is integrated and dependent on the US then it is with Russia.
Putin’s an evil asshole. But he’s not a dumb evil asshole. I’d put Russia slightly over the US. I see them as a threat, but at least it’s a threat with which you may be able to reason.
That’s strange because China threatened to invade Greenland and started a war in the middle east that damage the global economy…
Oh wait.
That’s USA.
Maybe there’s a reason we see USA as a bigger threat?Extremely accurate idea too.
It’s not an either or situation. We should keep a distance to both.
I think its more of a. At least china does not seem to want to intentionally fuck itself so there is limits to its danger.
China just wants to infiltrate our economy and education without us noticing.
We Europeans don’t see you as a threat, this only applies to the orange criminal and his magats. Your current events in the states are the daily topic in the workplace here, especially the difficult survival of the ordinary citizen
Unless you are from Poland, that is blatantly false, see the chart. Europeans CLEARLY see USA as a danger and for good reason.
For some countries the “close ally” segment is in 1 digit percentage!!!USA is absolutely a threat, they have threatened to invade Greenland, which caused several NATO allies to send troops to defend an American invasion.
And they currently wage an unprovoked illegal war against Iran, that threaten the economy of the entire globe including Europe.No it’s not just the Orange turd, He is just a symptom, he was elected by a majority vote, and no checks and balances has been effective in removing the madman. USA is a rogue state and is absolutely dangerous for the entire world.
USA is not just a potential danger to Europe, they are a current active danger. There can be no ifs or buts about it, it has already happened that they have acted very clearly dangerously towards Europe.
Have you read the text? I think you feel attacked by the second sentence regarding Trump and his MAGATS.
Our company has been doing business with the states on a daily basis for more than 50 years, we have 2 distribution hubs and about 10 dealers spread over the states. There are daily meetings, every trade related fair in the states and Canada we try to be there to announce new products.
You write:
We Europeans don’t see you as a threat,
That is not true. It’s simply factually wrong, and the chart very clearly shows how wrong it is.
If you write “we here at our business”, that would be a different matter. But you are making a decidedly false claim on behalf of Europeans in general.
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What is that AI slop of a headline? Does no one proofread anything anymore?
That’s a particular register known as headlinese, and has been used pretty much since the start of newspaper publication.
