Recent reporting from the Financial Times reveals it was President Trump, not the Iranian government, who was begging for a ceasefire.
FT reports that the Trump administration had been privately pushing for a ceasefire for weeks to alleviate the economic strain caused by Iran’s control of the Strait of Hormuz, and depending on Pakistan for mediation. Pakistani Army Chief Asim Munir was communicating with Iranian officials, special envoy Steve Witkoff, Vice President JD Vance, and Trump himself even after the president threatened to wipe out Iranian civilization on Tuesday.
According to the five people familiar with the diplomatic back channel, Trump had been asking for a ceasefire since as early as March 21, when he first threatened to bomb Iran’s power plants.
This contradicts virtually everything the Trump administration has claimed about Iran—that Trump’s constant bombings and threats of extinction caused a wounded, demoralized Iranian regime to limp to the negotiating table, desperate for a deal with the U.S.
This just in, guy who lies all the time lied again.
Quite literally the worst negotiator in history. Fucking wild
HeS BoSnesSmAn
Don’t ever forget the motherfuckers who voted for this.
Ya, everybody knows.
Extra crunchy taco.
Remember The Wall that Mexico was going to pay for?
Trump boasted about that thing for months leading up to the 2016 election, and dropped it like a hot rock the first time the Mexican President told him ‘no.’
My biggest issue with the 2024 election was that no one really called that out.
It would have been so easy to just constantly troll him on it.
His people would say that Trump was just trolling the main stream media and they were idiots for taking him seriously
The answer would be, oh so you’re trolling now too?
“Why should the people in the heartland treat the coastal elites with any respect? They act like they are better than us because they’ve got education!”
maybe you are using people like CHarles kushner, witkoff, as your “mediators” trump.
So let me get this straight:
USA and Israel vs Iran
Trump and Putin are basically best buds
Russia is providing Iran with drones
So this is just one big circle jerk war?
Bonus connection:
Trump/Vance wants Orban to win so Vance goes to Hungary to stump for him.
Orban is a Russian puppet trying to undermine the EU.
Netanyahu and Orban are best buds, Orban says he would leave the ICC when he wins the election
Orban reached out to Iran in 2024 offering aid, raising questions about current ties.
So this is just one big circle jerk war?
I remember seeing the new, prequel trilogy as a kid, and thinking… the over arching political plot here fundamentally relies on too many people being just too naive and stupid for this to be believable.
Welp.
i remember seeing this as a kid and comparing it to the gorbachev and the fall of the ussr and the how these similarities echo through most of history and were perhaps used as inspiration of the plot and the physchology of the id and ego and whether freud was right and the greater implications this had for not just psychology but geopolitical tensions through out the life i was only getting to begin to experience
I must have been a bit younger than you when the movies came out, lol.
lol
What’s the US’s biggest export ? Oh yeah, weapons.
If Russia was not currently on day fucking 1000 or w/e of its 3 day military operation, Putin would be laughing so hard that it might kill him.
Yeah, Trump somehow managed to get cucked by both Putin and Netanyahu.
Oh right, that somehow is raping and murdering kids alongside his best pal Epstein, who seems to have essentially been a mutual intelligence ‘asset’ of the CIA, Mossad, and the FSB.
Woops, went in to clean up the deep state, but we sent for the job the deep state’s dumbest soldier.
If I could put my tinfoil hat on for just a moment, i would say an indefinite war was the intent. If you have an unruly populace, what better place than the front lines to send them? The gulag? Nah, they aren’t producing anything while sitting in a prison. Meanwhile, the front lines are wearing down an enemy populace, and if they are killed there, great. One less dissident to worry about. It’s also a great way to consolidate even more power, if those dissidents happen to be part of the oligarchy who grew a conscience.
But this tinfoil theory would imply he’s playing 4D chess out there, and i don’t think there’s any evidence to support that. Even if it’s a convenient way to remove dissidents, and likely being done to a certain extent, i would surmise this extended war effort is due to plain incompetence and decades of greed surfacing and not the main objective. Slava Ukraini ✊🏻
My next tinfoil hat theory is that this assumes Iran a willing participant in this circle jerk war. Seeing how Iran came out on top in that brief crease fire deal, it could be possible that targets hit so far were considered “soft targets”. Now I’m not so callous to say a school full of children is a soft target, but with the players currently involved, i wouldn’t put it past them to purposefully hit civilian targets to drum up recruitment for the other side, to give yourself more hard targets to hit. And any major attack against a hard target could be seen as letting one in to not give away the game at hand. Even the initial attack against the old leadership could be seen as letting the new leadership in, but that’s so much tinfoil, my fillings are starting to buzz.
There would have to be an investigation into the targeting choices to try and figure out if that’s what’s really going on, in which under a certain threshold and i would classify those as deliberate.
Now i will fully admit that I’m talking out of my ass here as i haven’t really been closely following Operation Epstein Fury. But there are certainly some news pieces recently that lead me to suspect something fucky is going on in the background, even if it turns out it’s just what we already know: market manipulation and gambling on war.
What you are describing is not really tinfoil hat.
You are basically describing the poltical theory of oligarchical collectivism, as outlined by Emmanuel Goldstein, in 1984.
Go read 1984 again.
The entire operating concept of the forever war between Oceania, EastAsia and Eurasia is that they all throw their economic might into never ending wars, to solve the capitalist problem of overproduction, and also simultaneously create totalitarian police states that keep the proles under control, to keep the oligarchs comfy and in power.
Like the entire genre of cyberpunk… its a ‘this was supposed to be a warning, not an instruction manual’ situation.
Iran doesn’t have to be a willing participant in all of this, they just have to be in the… eternally fucked, sacrifice/periphery zone, that the three major powers constantly war/scheme for control over.
Sure, the exact lines on the map as drawn in 1984 aren’t perfectly correct, but the broad strokes are pretty close to correct.
You’re right, I should go read 1984 again, lol.
At this point I would suggest grabbing a physical or local digital copy, before it becomes a thoughtcrime.
Now closer to day 2000 than 1000 lol
Right, yeah, it just hit 1500, didn’t it.
sigh
So this is just one big circle jerk war?
Yes, and a key observation might be: the oligarchy being discussed more and more in the US is not constrained to the US. There is (in a practical sense, not an official one) a single world government controlled entirely by the rich who are currently circle-jerking.
You’re talking aout the ruling class, basically. Around their world their class interests generally align, so they act as one.
Sometimes the ruling class get into intra-class conflict - factions form or some members try to steal each other’s stolen wealth, but they’ll usually stop when it begins to threaten the interests of their class as a whole. See: every single war. Maybe WW1 they didn’t stop in time.
Don’t forget the easing of Russian sanctions because of the oil issues, so Russia is making money from this.
its more than likely thats why he attacked iran, to conveniently give russian sanctions a reprieve.
I feel like that was a side benefit to getting a reprieve from the Epstein files.
Oh no! Another BOMBSHELL!!!
If only he didn’t start a war, then he wouldn’t need a ceasefire.
But then we’d still be talking about the fact that he rapes children and none of his cabal of fellow rapists have seen justice.
There’s clearly no evidence of this. Well unless you mean
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The only surprise here is how quickly this has been confirmed.
i mean I was thinking that. always projecting and all.
Was he on his knees? Or did he drop to all fours to beg?
I believe one of the points in the ten point plan is that he personally has to give every Iranian, living and dead, a rim job. He’s just that good a negotiator.
I’m shocked! Well, not really.
Apparently doesn’t matter since USA is refusing to reign in their rabid attack dog.
Rein. No one wants to reign in a dog.
Parasites do. And Trump et al is a parasite, so…
Yup. Thanks!
Ayone have a unblocked version of the FT report?
FT article on archive.is-
