• glimse@lemmy.world
    6414·
    1 day ago

    “girl, stop… I can’t”

    Who made this? Who thought it’d be funny to write that?

  • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
    10816·
    1 day ago

    I feel like none of the people in that picture deserve to have a laugh at this. They are responsible for that orange dookie being in the White House.

      • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
        102·
        16 hours ago

        Because Obama said ‘Yes we can’ and then completed that sentence through his actions with ‘do nothing of substance’. Since Reagan, workers’ pay has fallen behind the wealth generated through those workers.

        This has led to the biggest inequality of wealth distribution in the world.

        And history shows that the people noticed. History shows that a breaking point was reached during the Obama years, because after Obama, people had so little faith in the government that they would vote for a joke candidate that promises to burn the current system down over a serious candidate that promises to guide the current system along.

        The problem is that unfettered capitalism only knows one end-state: with the most wealth concentrated in the hands of the fewest people. And the unwillingness of politicians to oppose the rich and powerful is the reason people do not trust the government anymore; is the reason why capitalism in the US remains unfettered.

        And history is repeating itself in all other western capitalist nations. Far-right firebrands are on the rise everywhere.

      • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2612·
        1 day ago

        Yeah, clearly their fault and not the millions of voters who preferred fascism or the millions of people who didn’t give a shit enough to do anything. /s

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today
          316·
          1 day ago

          Fascism does not happen in a vacuum. It happens when the political system becomes stagnant leading voters to turn to populism for political change. The right embraced this to secure control of the state, the Democrats dug their heels in the dirt and consistently supported third way Democrats who consistently sold off social safety networks and progressive rights to secure economic benefits for the wealthy donor class.

          • Karjalan@lemmy.world
            11·
            12 hours ago

            And a lot of people who “voted for facism” are just average citizens who don’t look to deeply into politics (either don’t care, understand, or have time/energy) and just bought the right wing lie of “fix economy, gib jobs, lower fuel price, tough on crime” etc. And went with that.

            Yeah, some of the voters are straight up facist, but people here are being too hard on people who’s time and energy is squashed by the hyper capitalist machine and are surrounded by propaganda

        • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
          197·
          24 hours ago

          Fascism isn’t appealing unless the status quo is extraordinarily bad for the average person. Observe, the party of the status quo. Do you not think they contributed to where we are?

          • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            23·
            17 hours ago

            My point being everyone points to them all the time. Why not people who vote for fascism or abstain?

            Primary turnouts are TERRIBLE. People complain all the time but generally do fuck all to make anything different. For as much bitching as there is people could be electing more mamdanis or Aocs or whoever but they don’t.

            They prefer to bitch online, to their friends, etc. and then not use the primary tool to change anything and somehow expect things to just magically get better. I have friends and family who do just this.

            I’m just railing against the idea it’s all the fault of the “establishment” or whatever is the word of the day instead of allocating at least some blame to people who don’t do anything to effect their situation and expect others to do all the work.

            • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
              1·
              15 hours ago

              You can’t vote in a primary for a candidate that doesn’t exist. It is expensive to run in a primary, both socially and financially. These chucklefucks know that more fairness in primaries make it more likely that they lose their jobs, so they have a vested interest in keeping primaries difficult to participate in. Oh look! That’s still on them! Amazing!

              We’ve seen in the last few years that high voter turnout in primaries is caused by a highly visible candidate that people are excited about. Higher vote turnout in a primary where such a candidate isn’t running wouldn’t change anything, now would it?

              Like, you keep trying to make the people who have the least control and power in this situation more culpable than the fuckers who run it. Do you understand my incredulity at such a prospect?

              • timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                1·
                2 hours ago

                I don’t think it helps anyone to absolve their complicity in not doing their civic duty. They still have a choice regardless if theyre “excited.”

                There’s zero reason not to turn out. Period.

                Unless people truly don’t care and it turns out, a bunch truly don’t.

          • brave_lemmywinks@lemmy.worldEnglish
            33·
            22 hours ago

            They did it 2 (two) times.

            People saw his behavior and voted for him again. This has no explanation outside of people vote for who’s not in power every time. Could have been a monkey, but unfortunately wasn’t.

            • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
              72·
              21 hours ago

              Oh yeah! I remember how after 4 years we completely got the country back on track, removed all economic/societal pressure on the average American. They must’ve just chose fascism cause they’re evil /s

              Dude, people are drowning and Biden/Harris ran on “no fundamental change” in 2024. They picked the person who promised change. It’s not rocket science. Yes, people are shortsighted, but the drowning tend to be so.

                • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
                  33·
                  20 hours ago

                  Accountability for those responsible, the leaders who are failing their people and are unable or unwilling to fix the issues that are pushing people to extremism. Exactly! I’m glad we’re on the same page! Hold those bastards accountable and get them out of those positions, so that that power can be held by those who will actually act on their mandate.

      • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
        407·
        1 day ago

        Obama was a rhetorical master, but his policies failed to address inequality, laying the ground work for the rise of Trump. Hillary played dirty to win against Bernie and then came off as totally fake and disconnected, leading to Trumps victory. Biden failed to prosecute Trump and also failed to address inequality, allowing Trump to redeem his image. Kamala then tried to court moderates instead of promising meaningful change. The democrats as a whole have failed for decades now to address inequality and reign in the excesses of capitalism. Trump is a direct result of their failure.

          • Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
            131·
            21 hours ago

            Pardon? Are you referring to my attempt at explaining that the above politicians not only failed to stop Trump, but are actually responsible for President Trump as a republican campaign or am I missing something?

          • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
            134·
            24 hours ago

            Classic moron strategy: attack any attempt to hold the more reasonable political party accountable for their actions as sowing division.

            They work for us, genius. If we don’t criticize their failures then they’ll never have an incentive to improve. They already want to sit around doing nothing and earn votes by “not being that guy”. If we don’t push them, their party will just continue following the Republicans lockstep into fascism.

            The GOP changed because of a fucking astroturf strategy by the Koch Brothers in the form of the TEA party. The democrats are only now starting to change because of insurgency from the left. They’ll only continue to change if you keep the pressure on them. Refusing to court criticism will only cause them to fall further to the right, causing them to lose even more than they are right now.

          • 4am@lemmy.zip
            93·
            1 day ago

            Classic Democrat campaign; don’t prosecute the criminals because of what might come out about you/your party

            • im_fine_sandy@nord.pubEnglish
              62·
              1 day ago

              LOL.

              Its hard to imagine the feels could be worse than republicans.

              It seems like every other day one of them is detained on sexual assault charges.

          • Katana314@lemmy.worldEnglish
            24·
            21 hours ago

            “Excuse me, sir, do you support trans people?”
            “Eh. I can’t say it’s my platform. I don’t hate them! I won’t carry out a giant platform to oppress them. But support them? I’ll be honest, I won’t go much further than basic rights.”
            “You heard it here, folks! He’s not doggedly progressive! Our only choice is LITERAL HITLER!!”

          • Tiger@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            35·
            23 hours ago

            Better to be self aware enough to recognize flaws and correct them, or keep the status quo and repeating the same mistakes?

      • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.mlBanned from community
        203·
        1 day ago

        What??? Google the pied piper strategy that Hilary employed during her campaign. She is the literal reason he won, lol.

      • cattywampas@lemmy.world
        45·
        23 hours ago

        We voted in the primaries, and Hillary got more votes than Bernie. She beat Bernie by a similar number of votes as she beat Trump by in the popular vote in 2016, about 2.5 million votes.

        The reality that many Bernie Bros don’t want to face is that Bernie was not popular with Black voters in the South, who are and have always been the backbone of the Democratic Party.

        Bernie did almost no campaigning in the South, did not reach Black voters, did not speak to their concerns, and this was a big reason he lost.

        • sculptor0725@sh.itjust.works
          72·
          20 hours ago

          Is that really what people think happened in '16? Is that what history teaches? It’s not what I remember. I remember the DNC going to media war to stop him. I remember the people wanting one thing and money wanting another and most people not getting a chance to cast a ballot worth casting at the primaries.

        • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
          25·
          22 hours ago

          Bernie also isn’t a Democrat, so I don’t know why anyone would think that the DNC would nominate a very vocal independent to be their candidate. He’s not a Democrat, and they will NEVER give him the Democratic Nomination.

        • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
          31·
          22 hours ago

          If things were that simple, Citizens United wouldn’t be an issue.

  • Cleisthenes72@lemmy.ca
    52·
    1 day ago

    And then I said “Look forward, not backward” and the dumbasses thought there would be no consequences!!!

          • Skunk [any]@lemmy.zip
            35·
            22 hours ago

            You’re missing my point, you’re not being courteous toward fat people by insulting Trump as fat. Having ones property used as insult is… well… insulting. That’s really all there is to it.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
      101·
      1 day ago

      There is no fat shaming just because he was called a type of food

      The joke is about his bad bronzer and his cowardice, and the fact that he was in a catering cart like a food is

      Performative wokeness is back that way, in the drawer with the “I’m with her” and “brat summer” signs 🔙

      • Skunk [any]@lemmy.zip
        410·
        1 day ago

        They call him a “fat ass”

        Performative wokeness

        as if you’re not performing antiwokeness. Go back to your den of smugness and superiority.

        • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.mlBanned from community
          22·
          1 day ago

          I hadn’t seen it from that perspective before. Your elequent argument has swayed my cold heart.

            • Nonconfrontational@lemmy.mlBanned from community
              13·
              1 day ago

              Shame is a powerful motivator. I think I’m more pro health than fat phobic but I haven’t done much research into the topic.

              • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@anarchist.nexusEnglish
                4·
                1 day ago

                Shame is a powerful motivator.

                It’s really not, quite the opposite actually.

                I think I’m more pro health than fat phobic but I haven’t done much research into the topic.

                Look, I am morbidly obese. Is my weight healthy for my body? Hell no. Not even close. But people shaming me for my obesity… it’s not gonna help me lose weight. It’s not gonna induce me to lose weight. It’s just gonna make my life harder for no reason. It’s not as if I don’t know I’m obese. That fact, in fact, dominates my entire existence. It’s more obvious to me than anyone else in the world. I do not need a reminder.

                But there’s a further dimension to fat shaming. Namely, that just because someone has a little tummy does not mean that they are at an unhealthy weight. Conversely, not having a tummy is not sufficient to determine that a person is at a healthy weight. I.e.: fat shaming is not just morally wrong, it’s not even healthy advice. This is really a special case of the fact that fatness is socially constructed, and its current construction reinforces various other bigotries, in particular white supremacy and sexism, because white women’s bodies are the ones for whom these definitions are calibrated.

                Anecdotally, there were a few years of my life where I was actually living a “healthy” weight. I looked far too skinny for my body, I looked like garbage, and I felt crappy. People in my life who begged me for years to lose weight were all of a sudden begging me to put some weight back on. I had to put back on about 20 more pounds. And the weight/BMI that was actually healthy for my body back then would be considered slightly overweight. Now, obviously I have gone way overboard, but if I manage to get back to a “healthy” weight before I die, I’ll probably have to stop at a slightly overweight size.

                So if you really want to help people achieve their weight goals, whatever they may be:

                • Do not fat-shame (or skinny-shame).
                • Do not pressure people into losing (or gaining) weight unless the person specifically asks you to do so (some people choose external reinforcement I guess? I’m not one of those people).
                • Do not ‘other’ fat (or skinny) people. We are all just people trying to live our lives. There is nothing shameful about your size.
                • Do not assume that solely because someone is fat (or skinny) in your judgement implies that they are in good or bad health.
                • Do not shame people for their health or lack thereof. If you want people to be healthy, shaming them is one of the best ways to guarantee they won’t be willing to work on it.

                And I really want to close this by tying it back to the OP. Personally, I am an anarchist meow-anarchist . My opposition to Donald Trump has everything to do with his work as the figurehead of the AmeriKKKan Empire, his pedophilia, his class interests, and his actions to achieve these class interests at the expense of the proletariat; and nothing to do with his weight. In particular, I literally would not care if someone looked exactly like Donald Trump but was otherwise a completely reasonable person.

                It should be incredibly easy, cathartic, and fun to make fun of Donald Trump for all the ways in which he actually is a monster. Typically, shitlibs can’t do that because they would have to confront the fact that their politicians want to do or have done 99% of the same things, so they immediately go for his weight. So if your worldview has any daylight between it and Donald Trump’s, there really should be more interesting things to mock than his size.