• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    riiight. Unless you’re a midianite. Or someone calls you Amalek, then all bets are off isnt that accurate to say? All the descendents of amalak must be killed, regardless of their innocence. Their race is all that matters. Commanded by god to Moses, right.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_31 (kill all medianites)

    https://www.sefaria.org/topics/annihilating-the-memory-of-amalek?sort=Relevance&tab=sources. (kill all amalekites)

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/11/benjamin-netanyahu-amalek-israel-palestine-gaza-saul-samuel-old-testament/

    Any of that untrue?

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      10 hours ago

      Every religion has their enemy laid out in scripture; It’s important to see that even if there are “enemies” defined in a religious movement, that all of those people still have the option of living the pacifist variant of their religion.

      I personally am an atheist, but i am able to see that there are many religious movements out there that substantially improve the life of people. I - sadly - recognize that the moment you mix religion with nationalism you achieve a mindset where everything that isn’t according to the most hardline shit in your scripture becomes heresy. I simply postulate that theologians free of nationalist impulses tend to be a much more positive influence on society.

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        4 hours ago

        Every religion has their enemy laid out in scripture

        Actually not really all that true. Its pretty much the Abrahamic religions who designate enemies in their scriptures, and both Muslim and christans sprang from judaism. The other religions focus on balance.

        Jainism, Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, atheism, most Native American religions, and Satanic temple do not have an enemy in their scriptures.

        These myths and stories tell people who they are, whats expected of them, and how to act. When your stories are bloodthirsty and include genocide like its no big deal, well, thats the worldview people model their behaviors after. Theres some psychotic stuff in the abrahamic religions.

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          I was thinking specifically about the abrahamic religions when writing that. There are many religious organizations in that space that really stand by the words “love thy neighbor”, and even if i think that religious belief is akin to a psychosis, i can appreciate those that try to reduce barriers and be there for vulnerable people.

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      21 hours ago

      And parts of the Koran tell you to kill anyone who isn’t Muslim. So here we are.

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        Uh… no? That’s not a thing. All verses of the Quran about killing people are in the context of warfare, which, well, yeah.

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        21 hours ago

        You are correct, and yet people should be allowed to practice Islam as long as they aren’t harming others. The same with Judaism and Christianity.

        The same with driving a vehicle, owning guns, and consuming alcohol or other drugs. Being part of society demands personal responsibility.

        If an individual is failing to be responsible, society should attempt to help them recover stability, rather than punish immorality.