(iii) Proposed provisions specifying that the USPS shall not transmit mail-in or absentee ballots from any individual unless those individuals have been enrolled on a State-specific list described in subsection (b)(iv) of this section with the USPS pursuant to this subsection.
One of the great failings of this government is not providing a punishment for repeatedly issuing unconstitutional orders. He has exactly zero incentive to stop.
what I don’t understand is why don’t they just come out and say “ok, no more elections. this is a dictatorship now” like they keep tip toeing around it, they keep breaking the law, insider trading, illegal operations, all of it and they’ve gotten away with it every time. So why do they keep teasing something they know they have a strong possibility of getting away with? who are they afraid of?
Doesn’t Russia still hold elections where Putin always wins? Or North Korea?
I think the idea is you keep having elections so you can say you won.
As opposed to the wonderful and free America, which holds elections where we get a choice between one of two candidates favored by corporate oligarchs. Candidates who are appointed to the candidacy, if the parties so wish, by “[going] into back rooms like they used to and [smoking] cigars and [picking] the candidate that way”, as acknowledged by our own courts.
Sure, a third party candidate can run, but without funding they have no actual chance of winning even if their message would otherwise resonate with the public. That’s not a functional republic or a functional democracy, it’s democracy theater put on by our ruling class to appease the working masses.
Our Congress has allowed a lawless president to do whatever he wanted. It is a MAGA coup dresses as Republicans.
This is pretty much the Republican project all along.
Checks and balances doesn’t work if one party is in charge of everything. I found the John Oliver episode about Hungary to be particularly terrifying.
Imagine if Trump rigged the election so they had a super majority in the senate and a majority in the house. They could rewrite the constitution. What then?
Here it is Americans. Its time to put that love of liberty and freedom to the test. Or are you all going to sleep meme your way through a fascist power grab.
Kinda seems like we already did.
This is nothing. There are nightmarish depths yet to plumb.
The sense of “what can I even do” is so fucking overwhelming right now. I know that’s part of the goal, completely flood the zone to make us apathetic, but it’s working really well. This is exhausting, just getting through the day is exhausting, and still I feel a deep need to at least do SOMETHING, but don’t see anywhere my effort would even scratch the surface. I donate half my eggs to the community fridge, I offer free lawn care to locals that aren’t able to afford it or do it themselves, I am vocal about progress in spaces that are traditionally conservative, but at the end of the day it doesn’t feel like it matters or makes any difference.
Honestly that community level stuff you are doing is the bread and butter of a healthy society. You dont need to do much to have an affect. You just need to make your voice heard to your local politicians, and keep the pressure on. It suits many scummy people for you to think you have no voice, but you do.
Second Amendment nutjobs sleeping on this be like:
So the USPS doesn’t have to do this, they don’t report to the president, and I don’t think this is in any way legal.
If the postmaster general follows this order I would hope anyone in Congress could haul him in and have him arrested.
States run elections, period, and this is blatant election tampering.
The postmaster was appointed during trump’s first term and was constantly trying to destroy the USPS then, and has been trying since.
They are sitting on a huge pension fund that team trump wants to embezzle or spend on war.
Biden admin did not push to get rid of him, so this was part of a bipartisan finance driven plan to destroy the USA.
One more Biden/Democratic failure. They had four years to get rid of that traitor who was systematically destroying the USPS, and after trying absolutely nothing, they were out of ideas, and he’s STILL there. They aren’t any more effective when they have power, than when they don’t. Fucking LOSERS.
Yep. Legally they couldn’t fire him, and they prided themselves on following the law. Trump regime has no such qualms and breaks the law with impunity daily, knowing that it will take years for challenges to work their way through the court system, and then finally wind up at the corrupt Supreme Court which will take their side.
Yep. Legally they couldn’t fire him, and they prided themselves on following the law
There does exist divine justice. Just “accidentally” get him run over by a car.
He’s not still there though. But don’t worry! He was replaced by an equally shitty bootlicker
Sure, but it’s just one more major example of how infuriatingly weak the Biden administration was. They didn’t even try for justice at all, or attempt to avoid an even worse future For America. Literally nothing. Even with the Insurrection, they only punished the foot soldiers, and NONE of the leaders, who should have been hanged.
UHM, THEY LEGALLY CANT??? 😭
Who’s gonna stop them?
Postal workers union
It will eventually be thrown out in regular and appellate courts after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election. Then SCOTUS will give it a green light because they are part of the authoritarian oligarchy.
after it has had the effect they wanted on the upcoming election
I don’t think the anti-GOP sentiment is confined to elderly liberal voters.
Also, Eight states – California, Colorado, Hawaii, Nevada, Oregon, Utah, Vermont, and Washington – conduct what is commonly referred to as an all-mail election, or universal mail-in voting. In these states, voting is conducted primarily by mail, and all eligible voters receive a ballot by default
I’m not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.
The effect is sowing further distrust in voting by mail and suppressing the vote of people who are being targeted by the government in other areas. In those states anyone who knows citizens who were targeted by ICE could easily assume the same harassment of citizens will happen with mail in votes as well.
Just because it isn’t feasible to implement doesn’t mean the chilling effect won’t happen.
The effect is sowing further distrust in voting by mail
Colorado and Oregon consistently have some of the highest voter turnout in the country.
Idk if this works in practice.
From the GOP perspective, this explains why Colorado is a Democratic island in the otherwise “real American” range states. They probably tell each other that without all the fake, mail-in ballots, Colorado would be as red as Wyoming and Utah.
I’m not sure how post offices in these states could even respond.
By laughing and ignoring it, having the Governors and Attorneys General of those states countermand it with their own executive orders / statements, just straight up saying that this is plainly obviously unconstitutional.
They could then also threaten legal action against anyone at the USPS who does not listen to them.
Its yet another Constitutional Crisis, any way you look at it, but, its not like there’s just no possible response.
The President is straight up demanding that Postal Workers engage in a conspiracy to, amongst other things… tamper with people’s mail.
So, any manager or supervisor who orders that be done? 30,000 counts of mail fraud, you’re arrested and go to jail forever.
Set up a state tip line for USPS workers to report anything like that happening.
This is how all of these ridiculous eos should be handled. It’s nuts that everybody is just doing what mango Mussolini decrees.
Its nuts, but this is basically just how fascism works.
More than enough people, politicians and the populace, basically just get stun locked by the pure audacity of ‘you can just do stuff’, as all the ‘norms’ that were never formalized just evaporate.
The response is at first bureacratic, procedural, untill it becomes extremely obvious that the entire strategy of the fascists is to weaponize everything.
Even then, it tends to take a while for most people and politicians to actually begin to react in kind, strategically, seriously, largely because they are afraid of… further destroying the norms that the fascists already destroyed.
Normalcy bias. “It can’t happen here” exceptionalism. Cowardice. Incompetence. Propoganda. Historical illiteracy.
Take your pick.
If state governors were more clever, they’d be coming up with reasons to keep their National Guard busy doing something ‘important’ in their states, literally just to deny them from being mobilized Federally, or make it more procedurally difficult and more of a PR mess for the Feds to do so.
They can respond by just trashing ALL of the ballots - remember the ruling a month or so ago saying they weren’t liable for shit if they did?
They can. But will they? These post offices are run by the same people doing the voting, after all.
It’s one thing to tell a post office in Utah to trash all the ballots and just hand the keys of state off to the local Mormon Bishopry. Very much another to give the order in Washington State.
All it takes is a few traitors at key points.
That cuts both ways.
The federal government has no control over voting, it is 100% controlled by the states. The post offices are not legally allowed to do anything to the ballots other than deliver them.
They don’t care what they’re allowed to do. They care about what’s technically feasible. They’re exploiting the fact that they can break the law precisely in ways that empower themselves to be above the law before the law can come back around to them. It’s analogous to crowning Trump king and issuing a decree that the transition from president to king was legitimate. What’s the constitution going to do?
Scotus isn’t always on Trumps side.
They don’t have to rule in his favor 100% of the time to be on his side.
In fact, they boost their own alleged legitimacy by occasionally ruling against the regime.
I got banned on Reddit for saying that this is a torch and pitchfork moment.
Because Reddit loves fascism. Edit: that and pussy-ass liberal non-violence…“go high!” Hippies.
They’re not hippies. Real hippies tied themselves together across roads to protest the Vietnam war. They chained themselves to industrial equipment to protect nature.
These are not real hippies. They disappoint real hippies.
LMAO. If the dems did this, the maga cunts would be like “OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!” but daddy dumpy does it, and they’re probably rejoicing.
And the good Americans just passively accept. Who is the bigger problem?
Way to victim blame. Only psychopaths and sycophants pull this shit
The victim? Keep telling yourself that unless you are actively trying to stop it.
Yea because fighting your own side is all about fixing it. Go talk to yourself in the mirror when it comes to addressing how not to fix shit.
Your comment “Only psychopaths and sycophants pull this shit” has been living in my head for the past half day. Not because I took it personally but more just how deeply ironic it is. Like you seem more upset at a stranger on the Internet calling out everyday non MAGA Americans for not doing enough and you call that person the psychopath and sycophant, yet not your President who is actually the psychopath and sycophant who is going to directly impact your life in negative ways because you and others have essentially allowed it to fester and grow. Looking at your post history, you do not even seem that mad at the situation around you and this seems to be a common thread. Like sure, you are clearly not loving the station as you see yourself at the victim which is fair as you likely do not vote for Trump, but he really is the epitome of evil and is so clearly dragging your country which I also love, into what is looking like hell for anyone not aligned to his evil views. Maybe my comments has you thinking too about how you can do more as you can be the victim and accept till it is so painful you finally act. Hopefully in a non violent way, but the longer you and the good Americans delay their response the more it will be forced into violence and I rather not see my friends and neighbours how to go through this.
I am sorry I triggered you. My intent is to use shame and shock to wake Americans up who are passive. Time to act. Hope you are taking measures to resist, even in small ways out side of online complaining and the odd ineffective protests. Download the apps that you can scan barcodes and see if you are inadvertently about to support a MAGA business that is undermining you and good people. The tools to address non violently are at your disposal if you choose and the longer they are not used, the more likely violence is coming. Hope this message is processed by you with the intent I am trying to put out, perhaps ineffectively. Feel free to suggest how I can help motivate Americans to join Canada in the boycott.
… Definitely the trump cult? Like yeah, you could argue that Democrats are also a problem, but the ‘bigger’ problem is pretty fucking obvious
What the fuck.
Also, what’s with this federal voter list nonsense? There’s already a fucking voter registry.
Elections are run by each state, including registration. That means when they want to fuck with the registry they have to do it in a state by state basis, making specific lawsuits that target that state’s system. They want to make it federal so they can just drop whoever they want from the registry without having to go through state officials.
Besides being a blatant attempt to enable widespread disenfranchisement, it is also highly unconstitutional. The states run elections, following regulations set by Congress. The executive branch should have no power here, and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.
and the executive order should be struck down immediately, but who fucking knows at this point.
1: The executive order is blocked by a federal court.
2: Supreme Court issues a stay on that block, allowing the EO to continue until the Supreme Court is able to review it.
3: Supreme Court slow-walks their review of it, delaying until after the election.
4: Supreme Court ‘does the right thing’ and decides it’s unconstitutional … after the election, once it’s too late.
I just instructed the president to lick my balls. I don’t think he will though.
Depends. Are you 12?
You Americans better do something…
We’re working on it as fast as we can without getting shot.
Did you tell that to the South Africans or the Germans?
The solution needs international solidarity.
I love that the noose of reality is tightening around this regime’s neck.
However, as they see the end they’re getting more and more dangerous, because there’s no way they’re going to let themselves face justice at the end. I predict this summer and fall are going to be the darkest times of my lifetime, and potentially a lot of violence from the regime.
I genuinely fear that ICE will be arresting people that look like they will vote democrat. You can’t vote if you’re sitting in a cell overnight. States like California and Illinois might protect their citizens. But states like Georgia (which has a democratic senator up for reelection) likely will give ICE free reign.
That’s cool, I’ll just bring all dozen ballots from my family to the local registrar office drop off. No USPS involved.
Thanks for the warning Trump!
Be ready to walk past ICE on your way there…
At 3am? 12pm? 7pm? 8am? They’re going to be there 24/7?
Because I got all of the time in the world
I mean… I wish you the best, but… if they go so far as to deploy their paramilitary to polling locations, it’s not that crazy to think they could post up 24/7, especially in targeted areas like swing districts and blue cities.
Best to brace yourself to walk past them nonchalantly and hope they don’t approach you on your way to the dropbox. If you’re carrying multiple ballots then they might ask questions, though… And we all know that when it comes to ICE there’s a thin line between “asking questions” and “publicly executing”…
But if you’re already doing that then you might as well offer to carry ballots for any of your friends who happen to be hispanic and visibly queer, cause they’ll likely have more trouble getting past ICE.
And also, you may want to double-check the legality of carrying someone else’s ballot in your state, as I am not a lawyer…
Not trying to be a naysayer, I just want to make sure we’re all mentally prepared…
Impeach him now
Drag him into the street and beat the sack of shit to death. Fuck this crap man.
I have seriously never hated another human being with the unquenchable fire with which I hate Donald Trump. I’ll help, if we ever drag him out!
Ok. First step is organization. How we do? Obviously they watch us here. So, how to organize without being eaten?
Is it legal to say “we need a revolution to overthrow Trump, and fast”?
Ask the French. They may have some pointers.
Winners get to define the rules. Be sure you win.
Well thats election interference
All this does for mail voters is require them to get their ballots earlier than usual. There are many reasons to hate Trump but this is not it.
Oh I’ll add it to the list. And its certainly a rule that will be used to throw out legal ballots.
