Your ability to completely de-humanize janitorial work says so much about you. Heart transplants cannot happen unless someone sweeps the floor.
Every job is important. Every job matters. Someone working at McDonald’s matters to that surgeon who shows up at 2am after a 16 hour day and needs food.
You wouldn’t sweep an OR you would mop or squeegee. Kinda like the example I used was ‘sweeping a floor’ and not your straw example of ‘sanitizing a surgical theater.’
Your ability to completely de-humanize janitorial work says so much about you.
cool strawman bro. Saying sweeping up dust is less important than saving a life is not saying “and you’re a worm if you ever sweep a floor”. I’ve had to sweep the floor at almost every job I’ve had, it was never as important as someone’s life.
I love how people tell on themselves by projecting their own prejudices and then get mad at the person they did it at, as though they had anything to do with the process
“ah but what if I change the example you used to a different example”
ok man have fun playing with your strawmen. Sweeping the floor of a warehouse is still not equally as important as life saving medical work. People who detail cars are not as important to society as paramedics.
There’s no straw man, but. I’m not inventing a narrative. Every job is important.
Just because you don’t think people who sweep floors matters to society doesn’t change my opinion.
Sweeping the floor of a warehouse is still not equally as important as life saving medical work
That warehouse could contain medical supplies. They could contain parts to build trucks that will transport medical supplies. That warehouse could contain equipment to build the medical devices that the surgeon could use.
You’re just someone who deems worth based on what they do in completion, not that work and society all works together as a giant organism. And to look down at anyone who does manual labour as less than someone who saves lives is extremely sad. You should be ashamed.
That is not what I said. That is another strawman.
You said EQUALLY important. I gave you examples of jobs that are not EQUALLY important.
That warehouse could contain medical supplies. They could contain parts to build trucks that will transport medical supplies. That warehouse could contain equipment to build the medical devices that the surgeon could use.
It didn’t it was mostly garbage fast fashion $5 shirts made to be worn once and thrown out.
. And to look down at anyone who does manual labour as less than someone who saves lives is extremely sad. You should be ashamed.
Fuck you quit projecting. I was using my own work as an example kiss my ass. YOU are the only one conflating the value of someone’s labor with their value as a human.
You’re just someone who deems worth based on what they do in completion, not that work and society all works together as a giant organism.
yeah and the heart is more important to the organism than the little toe. some parts of a system are more critical than others.
Yeah no. I refuse to be someone who thinks someone’s worth is worthless because of the labour they do. Every job is important. Every job is necessary. I’ve never said wages or other such things should be equal but every man’s labour should be considered equal. Everyone does a job for a reason and every job is required for other jobs to function.
Just because you think a janitor’s job doesn’t matter in society as much as a heart surgeon still doesn’t change my opinion.
And you might want to look up what a strawman argument is, because I don’t think you understand the definition correctly. You’re the one who brought up janitor vs heart surgeon, not me. Last I checked, BOTH JOBS ARE NECESSARY JOBS AND BOTH ARE EQUAL IN THEIR WORTH.
Lets say there is a shortage of trauma surgeons and a shortage of theme park groundskeepers ride engineers. Is fixing one of these shortages more important?
Does that imply anything about the relative value of the labor being performed?
I love the fact we’re in a work reform instance and people are falling over backwards to dehumanize labour.
It’s remarkable. They literally said someone who sweeps the floors is worth less than someone giving a heart transplant, but the person sweeping the floors is integral to that surgeon performing the heart transplant.
And so many people here want to completely say the work by the janitor which is essential to the work of the surgeon should be worth less.
Your ability to completely de-humanize janitorial work says so much about you. Heart transplants cannot happen unless someone sweeps the floor.
Every job is important. Every job matters. Someone working at McDonald’s matters to that surgeon who shows up at 2am after a 16 hour day and needs food.
Noone’s gonna fucking die if you miss a spot when sweeping
In a hospital surgical room? Yeah they can.
You wouldn’t sweep an OR you would mop or squeegee. Kinda like the example I used was ‘sweeping a floor’ and not your straw example of ‘sanitizing a surgical theater.’
cool strawman bro. Saying sweeping up dust is less important than saving a life is not saying “and you’re a worm if you ever sweep a floor”. I’ve had to sweep the floor at almost every job I’ve had, it was never as important as someone’s life.
I love how people tell on themselves by projecting their own prejudices and then get mad at the person they did it at, as though they had anything to do with the process
I have a prejudice that I believe every job is important and every job is worth doing? And every job is required for other jobs to succeed?
When the fuck did I find myself back on reddit?
It could never have happened without someone cleaning the operating room.
Serious question. Are you intentionally being dense? Or just come by it accindently?
“ah but what if I change the example you used to a different example”
ok man have fun playing with your strawmen. Sweeping the floor of a warehouse is still not equally as important as life saving medical work. People who detail cars are not as important to society as paramedics.
There’s no straw man, but. I’m not inventing a narrative. Every job is important.
Just because you don’t think people who sweep floors matters to society doesn’t change my opinion.
That warehouse could contain medical supplies. They could contain parts to build trucks that will transport medical supplies. That warehouse could contain equipment to build the medical devices that the surgeon could use.
You’re just someone who deems worth based on what they do in completion, not that work and society all works together as a giant organism. And to look down at anyone who does manual labour as less than someone who saves lives is extremely sad. You should be ashamed.
That is not what I said. That is another strawman.
You said EQUALLY important. I gave you examples of jobs that are not EQUALLY important.
It didn’t it was mostly garbage fast fashion $5 shirts made to be worn once and thrown out.
Fuck you quit projecting. I was using my own work as an example kiss my ass. YOU are the only one conflating the value of someone’s labor with their value as a human.
yeah and the heart is more important to the organism than the little toe. some parts of a system are more critical than others.
Yeah no. I refuse to be someone who thinks someone’s worth is worthless because of the labour they do. Every job is important. Every job is necessary. I’ve never said wages or other such things should be equal but every man’s labour should be considered equal. Everyone does a job for a reason and every job is required for other jobs to function.
Just because you think a janitor’s job doesn’t matter in society as much as a heart surgeon still doesn’t change my opinion.
And you might want to look up what a strawman argument is, because I don’t think you understand the definition correctly. You’re the one who brought up janitor vs heart surgeon, not me. Last I checked, BOTH JOBS ARE NECESSARY JOBS AND BOTH ARE EQUAL IN THEIR WORTH.
ok. maybe this will help.
Lets say there is a shortage of trauma surgeons and a shortage of theme park
groundskeepersride engineers. Is fixing one of these shortages more important?Does that imply anything about the relative value of the labor being performed?
How much you wanna bet the guy is just gonna ignore your comment or claim that you hate theme park staff?
That is not what the other person is saying. Stop being dumb.
I love the fact we’re in a work reform instance and people are falling over backwards to dehumanize labour.
It’s remarkable. They literally said someone who sweeps the floors is worth less than someone giving a heart transplant, but the person sweeping the floors is integral to that surgeon performing the heart transplant.
And so many people here want to completely say the work by the janitor which is essential to the work of the surgeon should be worth less.