• PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    There’s no straw man, but. I’m not inventing a narrative. Every job is important.

    Just because you don’t think people who sweep floors matters to society doesn’t change my opinion.

    Sweeping the floor of a warehouse is still not equally as important as life saving medical work

    That warehouse could contain medical supplies. They could contain parts to build trucks that will transport medical supplies. That warehouse could contain equipment to build the medical devices that the surgeon could use.

    You’re just someone who deems worth based on what they do in completion, not that work and society all works together as a giant organism. And to look down at anyone who does manual labour as less than someone who saves lives is extremely sad. You should be ashamed.

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      10 hours ago

      That is not what I said. That is another strawman.

      You said EQUALLY important. I gave you examples of jobs that are not EQUALLY important.

      That warehouse could contain medical supplies. They could contain parts to build trucks that will transport medical supplies. That warehouse could contain equipment to build the medical devices that the surgeon could use.

      It didn’t it was mostly garbage fast fashion $5 shirts made to be worn once and thrown out.

      . And to look down at anyone who does manual labour as less than someone who saves lives is extremely sad. You should be ashamed.

      Fuck you quit projecting. I was using my own work as an example kiss my ass. YOU are the only one conflating the value of someone’s labor with their value as a human.

      You’re just someone who deems worth based on what they do in completion, not that work and society all works together as a giant organism.

      yeah and the heart is more important to the organism than the little toe. some parts of a system are more critical than others.

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        11 hours ago

        Yeah no. I refuse to be someone who thinks someone’s worth is worthless because of the labour they do. Every job is important. Every job is necessary. I’ve never said wages or other such things should be equal but every man’s labour should be considered equal. Everyone does a job for a reason and every job is required for other jobs to function.

        Just because you think a janitor’s job doesn’t matter in society as much as a heart surgeon still doesn’t change my opinion.

        And you might want to look up what a strawman argument is, because I don’t think you understand the definition correctly. You’re the one who brought up janitor vs heart surgeon, not me. Last I checked, BOTH JOBS ARE NECESSARY JOBS AND BOTH ARE EQUAL IN THEIR WORTH.

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          8 hours ago

          ok. maybe this will help.

          Lets say there is a shortage of trauma surgeons and a shortage of theme park groundskeepers ride engineers. Is fixing one of these shortages more important?

          Does that imply anything about the relative value of the labor being performed?

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            9 hours ago

            How much you wanna bet the guy is just gonna ignore your comment or claim that you hate theme park staff?

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          10 hours ago

          worthless because of the labour they do

          That is not what the other person is saying. Stop being dumb.

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            10 hours ago

            I love the fact we’re in a work reform instance and people are falling over backwards to dehumanize labour.

            It’s remarkable. They literally said someone who sweeps the floors is worth less than someone giving a heart transplant, but the person sweeping the floors is integral to that surgeon performing the heart transplant.

            And so many people here want to completely say the work by the janitor which is essential to the work of the surgeon should be worth less.