Trump’s former vice president also called the administration’s “anti-weaponization” fund “deeply offensive.”

Former Vice President Mike Pence said Sunday that President Donald Trump’s second administration has “departed” from traditional conservative principles.

Pence, who served as Trump’s vice president from 2017 to 2021, told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that the administration is no longer committed to “the conservative agenda that has defined the Republican Party since the days of Ronald Reagan, and before that an agenda of American leadership, limited government, free market economics, the right to life.”

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    LOL.

    ROTFLMAO, even.

    Fucking conservatives always pull this No True Conservative bullshit when a con’s poll numbers start to flag…

    Because just like it is with Communists, conservatism can never fail, it’s just that people fail conservatism.

    This claim that so-and-so has failed conservatism in some way is as predictable as the tides.

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      Yeah, it’s always just that we need MORE of it, then things will be great! For reals, this time! Tax cuts and deregulation, just gotta keep doing it, hasn’t ever worked yet and things have gotten progressively worse doing it, but just hang in there, one more ® president and recession/depression, and it’ll turn around!

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    He’s just noticing this now? He didn’t notice this when a mob of them erected a scaffold, carried signs that stated their intention to hang him, and stormed the building he was in?

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      I think they had them perfectly, just now some of the supporters realized they don’t want to be part of sunken ship.

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    wow, took this long AFTER HIS GOONS RIOTED TO HANG YOU to make that connection mike?

    goddamn I do believe pence may be dumber than trump.

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      He was riding the clown train hoping it would put him front and center when it failed. Not a horrible plan. But it didn’t go that way and now he will go down in history as one who assisted in bringing it to fruition.

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    How brilliant. 10 years after the rest of us called it the alt-right. Ever heard of Liz Cheney?

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    I saw that interview, and he’s always been an arrogant, out-of-touch religious whackjob, but now you can add pathetic to the list.

    He still thinks he can convince drooling MAGAs to follow him on his quest to return to Core Conservative Principles, but he didn’t do it by explaining what Core Conservative Principles are, and how MAGA doesn’t respect them. He just went right to spewing the same old tired Conservative Propaganda Machine tropes about left-wing radicals, gender, blah, blah, blah, it’s so boring.

    He hasn’t realized something that everybody on the outside knows: The Republican Party is dead. That was just the larval stage before it morphed into their final form - MAGA. Anybody who would buy into his lame old list of conservative whines, has already turned MAGA, and they ain’t coming back.

    And MAGA literally tried to murder him. Yet instead of attacking them, and showing the right how MAGA is wrong for the party, America, and the World, and they need to return to true Conservatism, he just attacks Democrats with the same old MAGA complaints they’ve always had. It turns out righties actually wanted something other that a smaller government and lower taxes, they wanted to indulge their hatred even more, and that feels GOOD. Why should they support Pence, when they are already supporting someone who is following through with what they truly want?

    On the positive side, a return to Core Conservative Principles would create a completely separate party from MAGA, and I strongly encourage him to do that. He can take all the Righties who want to go back to the good old days of Reagan, and Trump can get all the MAGAs, and we can have a 3 Party system, with the right wing split between the Sociopaths, and the Psychopaths.

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      Democrats: “Oh thank God for this new party, I was worried I’d have to vote for a progressive!”

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      I wish this concept would die. The republicans who are in power, are doing exactly what they planned (project2025) by destroying the idea and function of a democratic working government for the people, grifting without consequences all along the way. Since that was the goal and its being achieved, they are HIGHLY SKILLFUL opponents who are currently winning. This makes everyone else spectating, wondering when things are going to be made right, the dumb ones. And its the second term. He is not in prison. HES THE PRESIDENT, again. As it is now, they outsmarted everyone, no matter how much that hurts the feelings of the spectators.

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        Not so much about being smarter/more skilled as it is about being shameless vermin willing to exploit, cheat, lie…their way through any barrier imaginable. It’s just a massive handicap fighting these demons “the right way”.

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          i don’t disagree, yet their goals are being met. They are normalizing this behavior globally. Surveillance state is set with full government support. Americans are no longer in Kansas.

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            cleans out ear with finger

            Did you just hear about the surveillance state? It started back in the 1900’s and it wasn’t until 1978 that is was determined to even need a warrant to do it. This quickly became secret warrants that the public never gets to see.

            Even when I was a kid back in the 1980’s project Echelon and Magic Lantern were considered conspiracy theories until decades later Snowden proved it was all true.

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        They aren’t smart, not even a little bit, they’re just playing on easy mode. There is nothing clever about what they’re doing, and in fact it’s pretty easy to grasp and is often incredibly public. The reason they keep winning anyway is because the citizens are lazy and ignorant, and most of the US are dumb as rocks even if they’re “educated”. Most people in general aren’t even that bright, it’s insane what they will fall for.

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      Plenty of people have cancer and don’t die. You’re suggesting we wipe out the entire deep human experience of having cancer, including the whole cancer subculture. Don’t you think that’s a bit ignorant?

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    Have they? They have started doing it with no deception. They are just doing the bad stuff and not trying to hide it. Regressives have always said one thing and done another. Now they are just doing the hateful stuff without any speed bumps.

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    Former Vice President Mike Pence said Sunday that President Donald Trump’s second administration has “departed” from traditional conservative principles.

    Not like the first administration was any better Mike. But nice job trying to give yourself political cover for your blame in what has happened to this country over the last ~10 years. You might have done the right thing in the end, but you had a good 3.5 years before that to stiffen that back bone up and you didn’t until you saw the literal gallows sitting outside the senate offices.

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    This is what you guys wanted, this was your end game for decades now. You’re just mad it wasn’t someone more savvy so as not to fuck over everything at once.

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    Not really. He’s all about oppressing minorities and women, siphoning government money for their friends, and trying to impoverish the government (“Starve the Beast”, a specific tactic since Reagan, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast ) such that it cannot provide a social safety net. He’s just a conservative incapable of hiding behind the mask.