• Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net
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    5 months ago

    It’s not “billionaire class”. It’s owning class.

    It ain’t that they have a lot of money, it’s how they came to acquire that money as an effect of the system of ownership we currently live under incentivising rampant exploitative practices as the most efficient methods of personal enrichment.

    Billionaires are just the best at being exploitative; they aren’t the only ones though.

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      5 months ago

      Most billionaires get their money by exploiting loopholes in the government. For example, they pay no taxes, yet the government will still prosecute people who kill them.

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        5 months ago

        yet the government will still prosecute people who kill them.

        They actually spend money to keep anyone from even trying.

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    5 months ago

    Dems know exactly how they could get a massive landslide in the midterms, and are choosing not to do it.

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          No, that’s the opposite of the truth. They’re a paid jobber party. They don’t oppose the Republicans, they job them. You know, like in wrestling when a wrestler is paid to lose a fight on purpose.

          The best thing we can do to fuck up their plans and screw with the billionaires is vote for the Democrats and persuade others to do the same. That’s the thing they least want us to do. They want bad PR and low voter turnout. But if we register with the party, go to local primaries to support socialist candidates who actually believe in improving things, and then help those candidates win (and keep the Rs out by voting for the jobbers when we have to), then the billionaires are fucked because the true believers in the party, even the libby ones, will raise taxes. And Trump won’t be able to lower them.

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            I can get behind primaries pushing out the establishment and neo-liberals, but honestly if we don’t succeed in that you’ll find me hard pressed to vote blue no matter who.

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              I’m guessing that’s because you think voting for a candidate supports them in more than one way?

              The first way that voting for a candidate supports them is that it helps them beat the opposing candidate, the R fascist. So you’re giving them the “better than actual Nazis” award, I’m sure you agree.

              But I’m guessing you think voting for a candidate gives them support in more ways than just that one?

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      Somehow this is the most ignored fact ever known, for internet people. No, you just simply cannot acknowledge two compatible facts. One is worthless garbage (your fact) while the other is profound wisdom (my fact). For example, here, somehow Donald Trump being a billionaire with the largest amount of power on earth is lost on this person, basically because it helps them burn the Democrats. Really kind of an idiotic response if you ask me. A billionaire acting the most like a billionaire is the “wrong” culprit here. And they think they’re such a big brain for this.

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      5 months ago

      But it could be more honest. Dems suck because they’re all bark and part of the problem themselves. Pelosi built a fortune on insider trading, but they keep acting like they’re innocent and “helping” the avg citizen. They sure as hell not with posts like this.

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    What neo-liberals and their apologizing masses don’t understand is we don’t see a difference anymore. They’re both conservative parties that only care about their payout ultimately. Advancing billionaire objectives and ignoring us. I really wish they’d understand and stop trying to fucking argue against this.

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      5 months ago

      You think taxing the rich, removing money from politics, and giving everyone food and healthcare is conservative?

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        Those are progressive ideals, not neo-liberal ones, and neo-liberals are currently the ones controlling the Democratic party unfortunately.

        That’s not to say that neo-liberals and conservatives/the MAGA party are the same, or that the Democratic party and the Republican party are the same, but it’s important to recognize that neo-liberals explicitly do not want to tax the rich, remove money from politics, or give everyone food.

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          Those are literally the DNC written platform. It’s on their website in downloadable PDF form. It’s how they have always voted.

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              jfc

              So as it turns out the entire congressional record including every bill introduced, voted on, passed in either chamber, and signed into law is publicly available.

              Although I could mention about 56 years ago they voted differently, so not “always”.

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                So if you’ve looked at that record, you’d see where Democrats have recently voted against taxing the rich, against food assistance, and against keeping dark money out of politics, and you’d see the absurdity of a sweeping claim like “that’s how they’ve always voted”.

                Also you realize there are more Democratic politicians than the ones who serve in Congress, right?