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I remember when Star Wars wasn’t political. It was a time known as “the movie didn’t even exist back then”.
At least Star Trek remains unsullied by politics
Yeah. There’s no need for politics anymore when you already have an intergalactic socialist utopia.
I’m a completely apolitical trans socialist in a queerplatonic relationship with a robotic hivemind, and I am OUTRAGED that some people these days are trying to politicise the prime directive and use it to force us to accept genetically engineered people!
- Average Federation citizen
“Ugh were those people not paying attention when history class went over the eugenics wars‽ Next they’re going to suggest using nuclear weapons on inhabited worlds!”
What fediverse are you on where anyone is anything like that?
I mean I know some people here have their problems, but I don’t think I’ve ever encountered anyone who checks all those boxes…
I’m talking about Star Trek.
Don’t make Star Wars political… Except the rebels want to restore a democracy in the Original Trilogy…
And in the prequels we have literal political scenes, as written and directed by Lucas himself.
And the Andor series is literally a class on fascism. Things presented there are inspired by real world events. The second season in particular makes it REALLY clear. You literally have the Empire conspiring with media to produce propaganda to undermine the Ghorman people so the Empire can come in and steal the planet’s resources and kill the people. Then the Empire stages a massacre and uses it as further propaganda
Ah yes, war. My favorite apolitical pass time
But… but it was clearly allegory to Cold War?
Back the day, murica was the good side, now, we could have 2 bads, sure, but back then, to big part of the world, murica was a Promise Land.
My son honestly doesn’t understand that America was genuinely considered to be the good guys until quite recently.
Edit to add : whether they actually were or not is way beyong my scope before someone starts up with “you havent been paying attention” and “dont you even know about reagan” etc.
America was genuinely considered to be the good guys until quite recently.
By whom‽
Europe, at least the parts of it I know well. The ww2 ending had that effect, which was then supported even more by the contrast of relative freedom compared to the totalitarian Russian hell many European countries fell into afterwards.
There is quite a bit of the world who experiences America directly as the bad guy or indirectly funding the bad guys. Eurocentrism is its own issue.
Europe, as is laid bare by Trump, exists as a lap dog to America as long as america was willing to pay lip service and to some sort of equality and drop some scraps from the table. It took the meaningless posturing of Trump saying he’ll annex Greenland for anyone in leadship to acknowledge the shit position Europe put themselves in. Just because Western Europe was in a better position than the neighbors or frankly much of the rest of the world doesn’t mean that they were in a good position for the capricious changes of American whimsy. That is not power that is just being adjacent to power.
And now utterly unprepared to deal with a narcissist ungrounded in the historical alliance between America and western europe. And it’s not like this is the first time he’s been in power. And if you think America will put someone like that in power again then you failed to understand the conditions of Americans. For fuck’s sake, there are places where they still call it freedom fries because the French didn’t join a terrible war.
Europe continues to be utterly unprepared for making the changes of another American narcissist. They are incapable of conceptualizing themselves as some sort of federated political entity that might have a political will other than whatever general direction America decides to lumber towards.
Sure, but I didnt grow up in one of the places they invaded. To the Vietnamese they’re undoubtedly villains, but to a lot of the world they were “the leaders of the free world”. They were Elvis, big cars, burger joints and blues music, they were the flag planted on the moon. Before we had the internet, we experienced it through mainstream media.
I think you’ve deliberately misunderstood the concept to go on an unnecessary rant about america bad.
(as i wrote last time this was posted here)
he followed up to simultaneously say he was joking while also doubling down 🤦
https://xcancel.com/theronster/status/1538239717032042497
also… blurring his name was really not necessary; he’s so proud of this that a screenshot of his reddit comment about it is still his pinned tweet four years later.
and it's also his twitter bio now:
Fr? I always had the impression that the Empire was somewhat inspired by Nazi Germany and the rebels were the resistance. Some of the helmets imperials wear in SW are kinda sus.
