I’ve spoken to a few of your types before who are of the mistaken belief that if you vote in a government, the government then has a divine right to finish their term. If the government is not performing economically or in the case of Yanukovic, reneging on election promises the people can protest and demand the government steps down and new elections are held. Yanukovic decided to try and cling to power despite clearly losing his mandate and then ran to Russia when this was no longer possible.
That’s the difference between fascists storming the capitol Jan6 style and democratic elections in the Donbass. Any legitimacy to Ukrainian unity disappeared that day.
You think elections carried out in a war zone with polling stations surrounded by armed Russians are legitimate? Only 2 other nations in the world, Syria and north Korea, the rest of the world agrees with me that your statement is ridiculous, not even China backs that one.
We have a drastically different idea as to what democracy means, apparently.
Clearly
And the idea of politicians being cowards because the fled a fascist mob is kinda undermining yourself as democratic
Please explain to me how this statement makes any sense? Not getting how the two are linked, must make sense under your idea of democracy…
What happened to elected representatives who stayed and tried to participate in the coup government?
I thought we established in my previous comment that what happened in Ukraine does not fulfill the definition of a coup. You are dogmatic in sticking to your script anyway. Weird coup where we have had several elections with different winners for president and parliament, with peaceful transfers of power since. How many different people and parties have been in charge of Russia since the year 2000?
You live in dreamland buddy, your worldview is pathetic and doesn’t stand up to the tiniest degree of scrutiny. I get that is all you have so you cling to it but does it not get tiring. You guys remind me of flat earthers.
The campaign promise was for a better trade deal. Russia offered an even better trade deal, objectively. No one argued it wasn’t. He would have been a traitor not to take a better deal.
And he did offer early elections, but the coup was led by Svoboda. Svoboda are Nazis. They’d never win an election, never have.
Getting worked up with me about you supporting Nazis is rich.
No, the campaign promise was for closer ties with the EU, following the path to integration. He spent years negotiating the deal on to u turn days before signing. No one believed the Russian deal was better for Ukraine in the long term. The people of Ukraine did not want short term gains and we’re pissed, hence all the protests.
Still not a coup, don’t know why you’re still banging that drum.
I don’t know why you think I am getting worked up, you must be softer than the Russian armies front lines. Russia has had an awful 2026 on the battlefield, I don’t think anyone with any sense can see a path to victory for Russia at this stage. Enjoy the long slide to irrelevance as a Chinese client state, Russia really has sold its future a little slice of Ukraine. Ridiculous!
A coup is defined thing. The peaceful democratic transition of power was interrupted outside of the democratic process. It’s not a pejorative.
I think you’re mistaking economic integration with cultural integration. Svoboda Banderites wanted the latter because they’re self hating slavs with a Nordic fetish. Talk to one. They’ll tell you.
Economic gains can be quantified, and absolutely no one claimed the EU deal was better. You’re just making shit up as you go along.
And even it wasn’t, there’d be another election, trade deals can be changed, there didn’t have to be a coup. No one wanted that but Svoboda.
This is not how democracy works. You sound like MAGA.
I’ve spoken to a few of your types before who are of the mistaken belief that if you vote in a government, the government then has a divine right to finish their term. If the government is not performing economically or in the case of Yanukovic, reneging on election promises the people can protest and demand the government steps down and new elections are held. Yanukovic decided to try and cling to power despite clearly losing his mandate and then ran to Russia when this was no longer possible.
You think elections carried out in a war zone with polling stations surrounded by armed Russians are legitimate? Only 2 other nations in the world, Syria and north Korea, the rest of the world agrees with me that your statement is ridiculous, not even China backs that one.
Clearly
Please explain to me how this statement makes any sense? Not getting how the two are linked, must make sense under your idea of democracy…
I thought we established in my previous comment that what happened in Ukraine does not fulfill the definition of a coup. You are dogmatic in sticking to your script anyway. Weird coup where we have had several elections with different winners for president and parliament, with peaceful transfers of power since. How many different people and parties have been in charge of Russia since the year 2000?
You live in dreamland buddy, your worldview is pathetic and doesn’t stand up to the tiniest degree of scrutiny. I get that is all you have so you cling to it but does it not get tiring. You guys remind me of flat earthers.
The campaign promise was for a better trade deal. Russia offered an even better trade deal, objectively. No one argued it wasn’t. He would have been a traitor not to take a better deal. And he did offer early elections, but the coup was led by Svoboda. Svoboda are Nazis. They’d never win an election, never have.
Getting worked up with me about you supporting Nazis is rich.
No, the campaign promise was for closer ties with the EU, following the path to integration. He spent years negotiating the deal on to u turn days before signing. No one believed the Russian deal was better for Ukraine in the long term. The people of Ukraine did not want short term gains and we’re pissed, hence all the protests.
Still not a coup, don’t know why you’re still banging that drum.
I don’t know why you think I am getting worked up, you must be softer than the Russian armies front lines. Russia has had an awful 2026 on the battlefield, I don’t think anyone with any sense can see a path to victory for Russia at this stage. Enjoy the long slide to irrelevance as a Chinese client state, Russia really has sold its future a little slice of Ukraine. Ridiculous!
A coup is defined thing. The peaceful democratic transition of power was interrupted outside of the democratic process. It’s not a pejorative.
I think you’re mistaking economic integration with cultural integration. Svoboda Banderites wanted the latter because they’re self hating slavs with a Nordic fetish. Talk to one. They’ll tell you.
Economic gains can be quantified, and absolutely no one claimed the EU deal was better. You’re just making shit up as you go along.
And even it wasn’t, there’d be another election, trade deals can be changed, there didn’t have to be a coup. No one wanted that but Svoboda.
This is not how democracy works. You sound like MAGA.