• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Um…when it comes to desktop OS’s, they ARE the top, and always have been.

    And even if you remove windows entirely, Apple becomes number one. Not Linux.

    Last I checked, the highest Linux as a desktop usershare ever got was something pathetically small like 5%

    And the reason for this is Linux developers design their OS as if the user knows what they’re doing.

    Windows designs their OS as if the user is clueless.

    So users who know how to use their computer, use Linux. And idiots use Windows. Well it turns out the world is full of idiots.

    I tried explaining how to install a program in terminal to someone who’s never touched linux.

    “sudo apt install program”

    And her response was “ooooh, no no no no no! That’s too much for all that! Ain’t nobody got time fo’ all dat!”

    I have no idea which OS she’s using these days. Haven’t talked to her in years.

    But if I had to bet my life savings, I’d bet she’s still never touched Linux.

    I’ve said it a million times. The year of linux will come 5 years AFTER a distro is released which not only holds the users hand, but handcuffs it. Does EVERYTHING for the user, so the user never ever ever ever has to even know how to do anything. Update a driver? They don’t even know how to do it in windows! You think they’re going to try their hand at updating kernals and such in Linux?

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      1 month ago

      My mum, who is in her 60’s, and never used anything other than Windows is on Linux Mint for nearly two years now and has no problem using it. I was surprised she has even explored features like virtual desktops and is using them now. She is far far away from being a tech person. And she never needed to touched a terminal while using it.

      But I needed to install Mint for her. I think she would have given up at the point where the boot order had to be changed to start from the USB with the live/install media. And this is the biggest downside of Linux: You can’t just buy the average consumer pc/notebook with a pre-installed Linux. It is always windows installed. That’s why people keep using Windows. Not because Windows is better.

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      1 month ago

      So to summarize,

      When you look at this tiny specific section of all computer hardware, then windows is still on top.

      Okey.

      Android, Robot vacuums, smart tvs, some airconditioning and air fryers, smartfridges, doorbell cameras… they most likely all run a version of the linux kernel. Consumers own more Linux than windows devices and don’t even know it.

      And this was already true before valve quite literally started creating consumer gaming hardware with a full linux desktop experience, of which again some people have these and don’t even realise it is.

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        1 month ago

        Let me get this straight. When you think of the “linux experience”, you think of refridgerators, air fryers, and vacumes. Your words. That’s your mental image of Linux.

        While at the same time discrediting the desktop experience as “a tiny specific section of computer hardware”.

        Now personally, I think Android SHOULD be counted as Linux. I’ve even asked why there isn’t a Linux distro that’s just Android for the PC. However, whenever I ask that question, instead of anyone answering legitimately, I get told that’s not what Linux is.

        And the sad thing is, I think that would BLOSSOM the Linux userbase on PC. The power supply on my PC died a month ago, and before I found a bandaid solution, I was using my phone in dex mode for two weeks. It was a flawed but decent experience. The type of experience that would be a lot better if it were more common. But it’s not. People just don’t use their phones as PC replacements like I did for 2 weeks.

        So me reading your reply, it’s obvious to me that everything you’re saying is a strawman arguement. What’s not obvious is if YOU realize how much of a strawmans arguement it is.

        Seriously. You used air conditioners to justify numbers of Linux marketshare. Hang on. I gotta do some photo editing. Let me go grab the dehumidifier and run GIMP on it!