• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    3 days ago

    I have obfuscated no facts whatsoever.

    Your entire comment was one long-winded attempt at obfuscation, complete with PRC state-media sources to back it up.

    You sourced none of your claims here

    Because I don’t need to. The facts speak for themselves as easily-accessible “common knowledge” to anyone who looks at objective sources.

    Plus I’ve had these arguments with .mls like you, and even when I do provide objective sources, you all reject them just because they’re not from PRC-controlled state media. I’m not wasting my time.

    You operate from a position where you assume your own point of view is correct

    Oh, really? Traveling to other countries and seeing how people live there, getting a sense of the cultural milieu and the routines of daily life, and listening to people when they talk about how they feel about various things, is all just an “assumption” I’m making that my “own point of view is correct”?

    As opposed to what you’re doing, which is what, sitting at home somewhere immersed in rabbit holes on the fringiest corners of the internet? Or are you sitting in a comfy office building somewhere with a database full of party-approved talking points you’re getting paid to disseminate?

    A vibes-based anecdote does not actually argue against the fact that Vietnam’s economy is dominated by the state, which is run by the working class against capitalists. This was decided by the revolution.

    This you telling me to reject the evidence of my eyes and ears? You don’t know shit about real life there, and it shows. If observing first-hand is a “vibes-based approach,” then you’re rejecting empiricism in favor of dogmatic idealism.

    Regarding the chauvinist claims you’ve made of China’s laws regarding national unity, they are always there to support national identity of ethnic minorities while promoting a greater socialist unity.

    Big LOL there. 'nuff said.

    Also, what’s chauvinist in this situation is the Han-dominated PRC committing ethnic cleansings and cultural erasure against every minority in their empire.

    As for the rest of what you said, that’s a lot of mental gymnastics just to say “well yes, the PRC is centralized, authoritarian, and hierarchical, as well as capitalistic and market-driven, but it’s okay when they do it because they’re not the Evil West™.”…

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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      3 days ago

      No, my comment was not “one long-winded attempt at obfuscation.” I clearly and explicitly answered each one of your points, grounding them in Marxist theory, and referencing facts where relevant. Only one of the 3 sources was state-backed, and it was one that simply told publicly available information about the demographic makeup of the NPC, which is hardly something controversial. To doubt it would be to believe anything said by the Chinese state is wrong, which leads me to believe that you would tell them they were wrong if they said the Earth is round.

      You aren’t providing sources, despite needing to, and you rely on “common sense.” This is nonsense. Anyone can see that you are woefully under-prepared, and so you just resort to baseless claims and character assassinations. You have no evidence on your side, so you lie about me and make up some fantasy of me being paid to be a communist online.

      Simply dismissing all of my points as “mental gymnastics” makes it abundantly clear for anyone observing that you cannot actually counter my points, and so are taking a deliberately bad-faith route to dodge the necessity to engage. It’s cowardice and bad-faith.