• BooBees@fedinsfw.app
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      Except they actually had a beet crop year that beat expectations this year, so at least some of their propaganda turned out to be true

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            Yeah right, everyone knows you’re a shill account. I’m not going to waste my time arguing with a sealion.

            Let me clarify something for you: this isn’t me starting an argument with you. You’re not that important to me. This is just a mark-and-bypass.

            Good day.

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                  I’m requesting evidence to substantiate a claim, you’re failing to produce any and attacking me instead

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                    Because I know you’re a sealion. I’m not blind, I’ve seen you around. “Asking for evidence to substantiate a claim” that North Korea glazes itself? That’s a very well-known fact, you’re basically doing the same thing as right-wingers asking for evidence to substantiate climate change. You’re the bolshevik version of Charlie Kirk.

                    And then you play DARVO by saying I’m attacking you. You have so much in common with the maga fascists of the world. It’s hilarious that you don’t even see it.

                    Oh by the way, you’re asking for evidence that anyone glazes North Korea? You’re doing it right now.

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            Womp womp:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_North_Korea

            Propaganda is widely used and produced by the government of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea). Most propaganda is based on the Juche ideology, veneration of the ruling Kim family, the promotion of the Workers’ Party of Korea, and hostilities against both the Republic of Korea and the United States.

            https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09512748.2020.1844281#abstract

            More than any other country in the world today, North Korea inspires observers to puzzle over how to communicate with it. Its domestic media and internet remain sealed off from the outside world; its ruling Party still invests massive efforts to control what its people see, read and hear.

            https://asiatimes.com/2025/11/decoding-n-koreas-messaging-at-home-abroad-and-to-the-us/

            Domestic propaganda in the Rodong Sinmun and allied outlets performs the familiar authoritarian function of normalizing state behavior, consolidating loyalty to the Kim family and molding public consent for hardship and sacrifice.

            https://www.asiapress.org/rimjin-gang/2025/06/politics/digitization-2/

            Reading sessions" (dokbo) are a uniquely North Korean propaganda method where members of schools or workplaces gather each morning before starting their daily activities to listen to readings from the Rodong Sinmun newspaper or current party policies, typically led by cell secretaries or propaganda officials assigned to each unit.

            It appears that once any document is printed, it must be recovered and disposed of by the respective printing house after use. The reporting partner noted that control intensity is particularly high in border areas, explaining that “access to publications is limited to designated people, and unlike before, it’s now impossible to go to propaganda department officials’ homes to get discarded documents as scrap paper due to strict management.”

            https://eiir.eu/international-relations/asia/how-north-korea-controls-its-citizens-between-propaganda-and-reality/

            North Korea remains one of the most secretive and repressive regimes in the world. The government, led by the Kim dynasty, exercises an iron grip over its citizens: domestic media and internet remain sealed off from the outside world, while the ruling Party invests economic resources and massive control over what citizens see, read and hear. The contrast between the carefully curated image of North Korea presented to its people and the actual conditions they endure, slightly known from the outside world, is stark. Understanding this dual approach offers insight into how the regime maintains its power despite widespread hardship.

            https://ncnk.org/sites/default/files/issue-briefs/FINAL-NCNK-WWC-RMLee-Understanding North Korea’s Messaging.pdf

            North Korea’s public line matters because closed regimes exercise complete control over their media to shape and manage public opinion both at home and abroad. Even small changes in terminology or media behavior can shed light on leadership intentions. As such, Pyongyang is extremely calibrated in its public messaging: what information it releases and how it frames that information, at what level, to whom, and when. By tracking patterns and discerning shifts in trends in the media, one can gain insight into the North Korean leadership’s current thinking and future intentions.

            https://www.harvard-yenching.org/research/a-collection-of-500-north-korean-posters/

            For example, in Figure 1, a classic communist red background frames a star representing the nation’s supreme commander – a position exclusively held by the Kim family. The poster bears the text, “The Great Compatriot Kim Jong Un,” at the top. Four figures, each symbolizing different sectors of North Korean “people workers (inmin)” – a blue-collar worker, a soldier, a laborer, and a woman in some kind of uniform – raise their fists in solidarity. The accompanying tagline reads, “We will forever be loyal to you!” This poster, likely produced after Kim Jong Il’s death in 2011, symbolizes Kim Jong Un’s rise to power and underscores the merging of the Party and ideology with the Kim family itself.

            Oh, but I already know what you’re gonna say: “None of those are North Korean sources, so none of it counts as valid evidence!1!1!1!”

            Yes, you really are that predictable.

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              Specific claim, dumbass. Because you’re too goddamn stupid to scroll up and read here it is

              So the claim here is that North Korea claims itself to be the richest or most advanced country, or anything close to it, and yeah actually now that you mention it you’ve completely failed to provide a single source showing that. Jesus fucking Christ you’re dumb.

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                dumbass

                Jesus fucking Christ you’re dumb

                You know you’re losing the argument so you’re resorting to insults. What a loser. I knew you’d be sealioning as soon as I tried to engage with you rationally, and that’s precisely why I didn’t bother. You’re only proving my point further.

                It really makes you so upset to learn that these strangers on the internet don’t unquestioningly worship your intellect, doesn’t it? Are you a member of the Kim family by any chance?

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          According to what fucking evidence? Just because you clowns will swallow any story about NK without questioning doesn’t mean I’m obligated to also be that fucking stupid

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            Refusing to play the game a troll wants you to play is, as can be seen here in this very comment thread, actually quite effective.

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              Refusing to substantiate a specific claim and attacking people who accurately criticize you for that makes you the troll, dumbass

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                Ah, putting “accurately” in there is an excellent example of why this is the best approach; continuing to dismiss their claims can be cast as implying tacit agreement, rising to address it directly lends credibility to the troll. Removing oneself from the artificial context, (i.e. “refusing to play the game”) entirely is therefore the clear winner in terms of technique.

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                  You’re completely full of shit and you know it, and so will anyone else with a halfway working brain who bothers reading any of this

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                    halfway working brain

                    See, there’s the rub. The rest of us here have fully working brains.

                    That makes you the underdog, and unfortunately for you, the underdog doesn’t always win in real life…