The argument the mod writes is 👌
Update : there’s a new one that appears but, I’ve checked, that’s the same mod as the others
Update 2 : got contacted by the mod, overall sweet guy/gal we agree to disagree and keep the ban up, who said that Lemmy cannot be civil
The computers in Star Trek are fictional. They work because the plot needs them too. They do not resemble a large language program because they don’t resemble anything. You might as well say CSI: Miami’s enhance image computer is AI.
The mod who typed that up might as well just declare from the rooftops, “I fell for a Silicon Valley marketing trick of describing software with a sci-fi tropes.”
You claim to hate AI in real life but like AI in SciFi. Curious.
The ai in Star Trek is actually helpful and everyone is having their needs met thanks to technology eliminating scarcity. The AI in real life is useless and causing even more problems for everyone.
What? You like Star Trek, but don’t want to live in the Star Trek universe?!?!
Not wanting to live in the Star Trek universe is honestly crazy it’s basically Paradise compared to the real world, even billionaires would likely be better off in that universe from a fulfilment and happiness perspective
Billionaires will just become badmirals. The get off on being shit to other people.
badmirals
Yoink!
Well, as long as you live in the imperial core. Every other episode is them visiting the kind of dirt farmers that would be jealous of current day Afghanistan.
No films or TV though.
What do you mean? Films and TV exist they’re shown on Voyager it’s one of Tom’s obsessions. Technically I guess they aren’t really making new ones but that’s just because the entertainment moved over to the holodeck novels
Isn’t “post-scarcity society” a big part of star trek too? Weird to claim you are a star trek fan while defending “scarcity generator 3000.”
i’m a chat bot slop machine hater too ban me plz
Oh no, AI slop will be removed from your feed? However will you survive‽
You don’t need to redact your rap sheet, it’s public.
Ha right. Forgot about that. Didn’t want to bring too much heat to the instance
LCARS was a data access and retrieval system capable of doing calculations and simulations. It was not, I REPEAT, was not “artificial intelligence”. It did not try to act or sound sentient, it simply responded to commands and ran programs.
TOS had the m5, which went rogue and started attacking and blowing up other starships, and lower decks had the Texas class, which went rogue and started attacking other starships
There is at least one instance where it was written as sapient in TNG. That was mostly for a joke, though. Specifically, there was a running gag in early TNG with Data getting a bit too into defining things and someone (usually Picard) would interrupt him with something along the lines of, “Thank you, Data, we get it.” In one scene, Data is alone and only talking to the computer, which gives the line there.
Though it could create intelligence. “Computer, make an opponent that can be better than data”. Ok, guess it’s time to make a sentient hologram then.
But that could only be done if the method do so had been stored as a program in the databanks. In Voyager, when they try to replicate The Doctor; Harry writes a program and then tells the computer to run that program. When the hologram fails, he has to reprogram it and run again.
It’s not like Star Trek is the most consistent over time.
In Voyager, they did tend to treat the Doctor with more care and show that it was a lot of hard work. By extension the other sentient holograms.
In TNG, they absolutely just casually upgraded a run of the mill holodeck NPC to a sentient being with a single supremely vague directive.
Yeah, probably because all of the computers had some guardrails built in due to the “Moriarty Incident”.
These people understand Star Trek is fictional, often takes place on quasi-military vessels, and depicts a society that has some significant differences from our own, right?
A friend has compared generative AI to the electric monks from Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective agency.
I’ve found that the AI chatbots feel a lot like the Genunine People Peronalities from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
You’ll have to spark my memories because I don’t remember those
From Dirk Gently
The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe.
In the book, an alien ship crashed on earth, the crew asked an electric monk if their ship was repaired. The monk responded that it believed it was, the aliens tried to take off, and then the ship exploded because it wasn’t actually repaired.
In Hitchhiker’s Guide, Genuine People Personalities were AIs that tended to be obnoxiously cheerful, neurotic, or hyperactive. Doors with a GPP would sigh with pleasure when they opened and loudly ask if they did a good job if someone told them to open quietly, for example.
God ! Douglas Adams was fucking funny. What a shame he didn’t got to see our time
He had a unique way with words. I sometimes wonder how he’d feel about having essentially predicted how AI turned out.
Oh god yes. Now you understand the suicides
That is master-class trolling, that is!
But let’s for a moment ignore that it is fictional. Star Trek’s economical system is communism, I wonder if they also embrace it?
Obviously I’m not enough of an AI hater cause I ain’t been banned from shit.
How you’re achieved this? I want to be banned there too really.
Serially downvoting AI slop, I’ve also ask in instance not strictly AI to dial down the AI slop… or you could ask the Mod
Everytime they try AI systems in trek it starts blowing up starships.
You must be doing something right lmao
Being banned from these cesspools should be a badge of honor.
we agree to disagree and keep the ban up, who said that Lemmy cannot be civil
had a similar interaction with another mod. they weren’t applying the rules unilaterally and temp banned me. I pointed out the hypocrisy/favoritism. they decided to lift the ban. I said, no, ban them too. we both broke the rules. they did it begrudgingly, so I blocked the community.
I refuse to interact with a community where mods begrudgingly apply the rules they’re entrusted with upholding. If I break the rules, so be it. if we break the rules we all are punished, no exceptions.
