I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
He was the worst at the time but Trump is far worse. Trump’s corruption is unprecedented. Reagan would be called a communist if he ran today. Reagan’s answer to Americans complaining about illegal immigration was amnesty and legal permanent residency for all.
Reagan was crazy enough to sit down and work with people like Tip O’Neil (democrat speaker of the house). I can’t imagine any republican doing that now.
I feel like this was mostly because they hadn’t completely solidified the echo chamber yet, if Reagan were president today I dunno if he’d be better or worse
Bush launched two wars where the US invaded countries in the Middle East, leading to decades of destabilization in the region and leading to millions dead. His admin coincided with the rise of Fox News and conservative punditry outside talk radio. Patriot act, tax cuts, oversaw the recession, etc.
Israel’s genocide started under Biden, so I can’t exactly put that on Trump even if he’s supported it. This quagmire with Iran isn’t as big as the invasions were.
Trump’s been more damaging domestically with his scotus appointments and emboldening racists, but if you look outside just the US, then yeah I think you can definitely make the argument that Bush was worse.
No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.
its not a contest and its pointless to think otherwise. Anyone who thinks positively of either is an uneducated degenerate dumbass who should never vote in any election until they completely update their worldview at best
I think W Bush painted the world black and white when there is nuance. You’re either with us against us. Started two very unpopular wars and dragged Nato members in. Caused mass immigration to Europe from leading to the raise of people like Bannon, Trump and Farage. The entire far right really. For me, Bush was the catalyst that led us to where we are right now and is the worse president. But even I think I am wrong cause my memory doesn’t go back much further.
And worse of all. Bush didn’t even win. Roger Stone literally stormed the recount, Bushes brother shut the count down and the supreme court went cool, cool, cool. Been hating ever since the shocking lack of democracy in America. And the fact that some anti abortion Gun nut in some swing state determines how many of my friends will die in wars, how much petrol will cost and how much food will cost due to sheer greed of the owner class in America.
So for me. Bush 2. Trump just let the world see the corruption in day light where the others kept it in the dark.
I still think Reagan takes the title.
I think reagan did the most lasting damage
Reagan deserves every ounce of hate he gets. I dont wish dementia on anyone except him. Rest in piss.
He was the worst at the time but Trump is far worse. Trump’s corruption is unprecedented. Reagan would be called a communist if he ran today. Reagan’s answer to Americans complaining about illegal immigration was amnesty and legal permanent residency for all.
Reagan was crazy enough to sit down and work with people like Tip O’Neil (democrat speaker of the house). I can’t imagine any republican doing that now.
I feel like this was mostly because they hadn’t completely solidified the echo chamber yet, if Reagan were president today I dunno if he’d be better or worse
They sit down and work with PACs all the time.
There’s no fucking way Bush is worse than Trump. It’s not even close.
I think it’s very close.
Bush launched two wars where the US invaded countries in the Middle East, leading to decades of destabilization in the region and leading to millions dead. His admin coincided with the rise of Fox News and conservative punditry outside talk radio. Patriot act, tax cuts, oversaw the recession, etc.
Israel’s genocide started under Biden, so I can’t exactly put that on Trump even if he’s supported it. This quagmire with Iran isn’t as big as the invasions were.
Trump’s been more damaging domestically with his scotus appointments and emboldening racists, but if you look outside just the US, then yeah I think you can definitely make the argument that Bush was worse.
No child left behind leading to a nation without critical thinking. Guantanamo bay. Imprison who the fuck you want without consequence. Making it law to invade the ICC if any American soldier is ever held to accountability. Crashing the entire global economy by relaxing laws on banks and investors. I mean Bush was pretty awful. Trump is just dumb as bricks walking in the same path set by Bush.
Trust me, I know how bad Bush was. I was there.
The bank thing that lead to the eventual collapse was a Clinton thing.
its not a contest and its pointless to think otherwise. Anyone who thinks positively of either is an uneducated degenerate dumbass who should never vote in any election until they completely update their worldview at best
I say people like Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes seeded the culture that led to the modern right wing.