• Nomorereddit@lemmy.today
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    16 days ago

    Close, its never (or rarely) about cutting out bad habits.

    Its about filling your life up with good habits.

    Now go get a magic wand for your household. Edit: sharing is caring.

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      19 days ago

      What’s frustrating about this “Your consumer habits are wrong, you should make them better” is that Twitter was (ostensibly) the space for the liberal intelligencia to go for journalism and debate and organizing until Elon Musk bought it.

      Does anything stop a billionaire from buying up or shutting down the next social media platform? We can wax poetic about Lemmy/Mastadon as a decentralized and indie-operated environment. But crazy to think Joe Biden/Donald Trump can squash TikTok with a few swipes of the pen, that Feds can play wack-a-mole with ZArchive and Anna’s Archive and Wikileaks, etc, while insisting the main hosts for the most popular indie media sites are bulletproof.

      Might as well tell people to stop using the internet entirely.

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        18 days ago

        Ill defer to you.

        Except lemme, ive had no social media for…3 years now.

        In that time, ive taken up muay thai, gratitude practices, doestevesky, made more rl friends and started a new business.

        From what little ive read, X/Twitter has never been for debate…but instead existed as a warzone.

        Thoughts?

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          18 days ago

          To me twitter started off as like how the facebook timeline used to be, people posted inane stuff about their day. The place for people to overshare. It was the evolution of early 2000s personal blogs now told in a daily stream of single sentence posts.

          Then it became celebrity gossip and it continued to be that until celebrities got on and it became the text version of Instagram. As in it was a major advertising portal. Then the scammers/wellness/influencers came in (just like Instagram) and it became where people tried to get people on financial multi level marketing schemes and special pink salt that removes negative ions from your surroundings (that’s still advertising). Around that time Trump was a hot take artist on Twitter and managed to parlay that to the White House (he really worked the media well in 2015/2016 - Twitter was the ultimate guerilla advertising platform then). To that event, whatever good discourse was going on on Twitter was deep in obscurity by like 2012. It had been a culture warzone well before Musk bought it

          Everything becoming a punchline, I associate that with twitter. Like no delays joking about sex trafficking and Diddy became a joke day one of his arrest. Joking like that became mainstream on twitter a long time ago

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          18 days ago

          In that time, ive taken up muay thai, gratitude practices, doestevesky, and started a new business.

          I mean, congratulations, I guess. I’m in Houston, so all of that just sounds like a ton of driving.

          From what little ive read, X/Twitter has never been for debate…but instead existed as a warzone.

          I’ve yet to hear of any bridges getting blown up because of a Tweet

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    19 days ago

    It remains insane to me that it’s so hard for so many to just, not use them. Truly, your life is not being enriched by twitter or Facebook. You can delete your account and I promise you won’t find yourself missing them.

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      19 days ago

      Living rurally, the main thing I hear is “but marketplace”. It’s a pretty crucial way of getting cheap goods.

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        19 days ago

        Honestly Marketplace is the best argument for FB today. How it has usurped Craigslist I don’t understand, maybe because it’s easier to navigate, but you’re right that it is the defacto modern market.

        I don’t use it so I forget about it, but this is a good counterpoint.

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          19 days ago

          I believe a major reason is reputation tied to a person’s account. OfferUp has also superceded Craigslist in my area and I think the user history and reputation system plays a role there. Same with other stuff like eBay, Mercari, StockX. Craigslist is too anonymous

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      19 days ago

      it’s so hard for so many to just, not use them

      Networking Effect is a bitch. It’s like telling someone to stop using AT&T or United Airlines. These are the major arteries of communication for billions of people. Individuals can’t abstain from using them without isolating themselves.

      You can delete your account and I promise you won’t find yourself missing them.

      Spoken like someone who doesn’t have their entire extended family posting and chatting on the sites regularly. I get calls from extended family, asking me to weigh in on long conversations and exchanges and posting sprees. And then when I respond on the phone, I get a “No, you have to post it, I’m not going to just repeat it to everyone for you”.

      Tons of social pressure to just go where everyone else is.

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      19 days ago

      The problem is addiction. Same as any other drug. It’s no coincidence that Facebook and X were rolled out as free services, with free accounts, where you can interact with anyone for free.

      Before the digital drug dealers running each changed that deal. Needing money, running ads, and restricting what you can do that all used to be free.

      These companies got us addicted to using tech in place of human socialization and then monitized that addiction.

      People can’t leave because for some it’s the only human contact they have. Even if it’s artificial, they still want it to the point of it hurting themselves. Just like any other addiction.

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      18 days ago

      I’m not that surprised that people can’t quit Instagram, to be honest. I still miss the posts of some of the artists I like. Some of them really put me in a good mood. I can’t for the life of me understand why they don’t take 2 minutes a day to at least copy-paste their Insta posts to Pixelfed or literally anything in the fediverse. Hell, at least Bluesky. I’m not even talking about huge arena-filling bands that have someone handle their socials. I’m talking about indie bands that would genuinely benefit from small community building and would probably be embraced around here for going against the flow.

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        18 days ago

        A lot of them don’t know about or don’t understand the fediverse. We need to be more proactive in asking this of the artists we love. I’ll try to be better about doing my part to mention the fediverse to artists in my sphere, an especially good fit given the DIY roots of the punk/hardcore lineage of much of it.

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    19 days ago

    Watch the video, they have a great discussion. Jon Stewart seems to think Reddit is great now and Cindy Cohn fights back a little.

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      19 days ago

      Yeah, he seems to think that the over-moderation is a good thing, and Cindy tries to convince him that censorship is bad and the answer instead is more like what you can do with the Fediverse, you can move servers if you don’t like how the server is moderated and who they federate with, but people are free to say what they want in their servers.

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      19 days ago

      In Jon’s defense, Reddit was fairly good and useful (unlike Twitter or FB) at one point many years ago. If you’re not active there it would be easy to think things are still good.

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    19 days ago

    good luck, this is like trying to convince a heroin addict to quit because it’s bad for them…

    social media algorithms are too good, they are too enticing. They have turned distraction into a multi-trillion dollar industry, and they are impacting every single one of our lives whether we are even on the platform or not

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    I find the disagreement between Cohn and Stewart towards the end to be fascinating. I find it hard to agree or disagree with either. Cohn is looking out for places like the Fediverse - she knows that if the platforms are subjected to regulation that is impossible to live up to for small actors, this will only serve the capitalists. In the US the law would for sure end up serving this purpose because it would be designed by the billionaires themselves, and they would design them in a way that monopolizes the internet even more as they discuss earlier on.

    On the other hand, Stewarts is also right. An Instagram feed is not free speech, it’s brain rot and propaganda and ruins society and lives. It needs to be regulated. Just letting then go on as they are while promoting alternatives misses the mark as to the threat posed by these platforms. Cohn seems to have a blind spot here.

    I think the EU has reached a reasonable compromise. They regulate very large online platforms - platforms with more than 45 million users in the EU - separately from smaller platforms. So your obligations increase with your number of users. Furthermore, EU regulation has exceptions for open source not-for-profit development, to avoid regulation aimed at big tech from hurting free software.

    Interesting enough I keep seeing people on the Fediverse attacking the Digital Services Act as though it’s gonna mean the end of the Fediverse, even though the Commission is actively posting about it on their own Mastodon instance and the EU is actively supporting the development of the Fediverse through NLnet. It seems to me that even in these spaces people fall for big tech propaganda.

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      On the other hand, Stewarts is also right. An Instagram feed is not free speech, it’s brain rot and propaganda and ruins society and lives. It needs to be regulated. Just letting then go on as they are while promoting alternatives misses the mark as to the threat posed by these platforms. Cohn seems to have a blind spot here.

      I don’t think so. She said she wants to make them unable to continue with their business like they did before, with regulations. Just not outright censorship, but instead go fight their data harvesting, decapitating their business strategy.

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      I had a lot of hopes for Jon, and he’s kind of letting me down here. Not the guy we need, he lacks the killer instinct we need. To take the nomination from the dems establishment and challenge the r’s that is. He trusts the establishment too much.

      He could win though, if he tried.

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      20 days ago

      probably because its astroturfing/supressing anti-zionist content. i notice hes pretty much pro-zionist, not as much as someone like SEINFELD though.

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    I agree with @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org in their comment. No one in real life is on twitter. Twitter is place that seems real because people on media convince themselves its real and give it substance.

    No materially meaningful thing happens on twitter, and its perceived importance is a byproduct of media hyping it up.

    Now meta… thats an altogether different beast. FB market place captured most of what used to happen on craiglist. Its how entire families organize and keep together.

    In terms of analysis, I’m annoyed at Cohn here. This isn’t something we as individuals have control of. Her saying people individually have to make the difference is like saying you individually have to make the difference regarding climate change by making different choices, like recycling.

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      20 days ago

      I get a lot of my business for my company from facebook marketplace and my facebook reviews. It enrages me that I have to use facebook to succeed, at least at this point in my business.