• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    Nope, there’s nothing wrong with the test. It wasn’t designed to test if it was “strong AI”

    That was EXACTLY what it was designed for, the argument being that if it is indistinguishably from a human, it has human like intelligence. Human like intelligence includes consciousness, and consciousness means strong AI.

    Computers are “thinking” routinely. Chess programs that have existed since the 80’s are already proof of that.

    The most well known philosophical challenge to the Turing test is probably the Chinese room, which is an obviously flawed thought experiment, because it introduces human intelligence to the system in an attempt to disprove that human intelligence is present.

    There’s plenty of humans that would struggle with counting the number of “r” in Strawberry

    I wrote a normal human", not people with way below average intelligence.
    Notice I wrote count which means they can be presented with the correct spelling if needed.
    Spelling it wrong would be a very human thing to do.

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      Cleaner Wrasse are conscious according to the mirror test. No one would call those fish intelligent. They are smart enough, but they are only self-conscious enough to recognize themselves in a reflection to help remove parasites.

      Nothing in the Turing Test proves intelligence. Sounding human is so easy, a chat bot that pretends to be a scared little boy was the first to complete it, way back in 2014. Assuming that fooling a human is hard is even less convincing.

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        5 days ago

        Nothing in the Turing Test proves intelligence.

        This is simply wrong, only Religious nutcases believe so.

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          4 days ago

          And godless machine learning engineers like myself. I think you assume I think humans and only humans are intelligent. I am not convinced humans are conscious. There have been many cases where that simply isn’t true or obvious.

          Have a good day.