• Boomer Humor Doomergod@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I hate that VW became the Nazi car when it was really a way to scam people, and BMW and Mercedes get a pass despite making war machines the whole damn time.

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    2 months ago

    Behind the Bastards has a really good episode on Volkswagen. I might have some of the details wrong, but the German government was subsidizing them for a while with the dream of having every citizen driving a Volkswagen. After the war they ended up getting involved in slave operated meat farms in Brazil.

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      2 months ago

      Behind the Bastards has a really good episode on Volkswagen. I might have some of the details wrong, but the German government was subsidizing them for a while with the dream of having every citizen driving a Volkswagen.

      Correct! The Nazi government tried to push a payment plan onto people, even. The people who paid into the scam fundraising effort but did not receive a car (ie all of them, as no cars were actually delivered) eventually sued after the war to get some small percentage of their money back.

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        2 months ago

        They were never delivered?? I was familiar with the story but no one had ever mentioned that before, that seems pretty fuckin important 😅

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    2 months ago

    Explanation: The car manufacturer Volkswagen has its origins as a Nazi initiative.

    … they are generally not very proud of these origins, and prefer to emphasize their post-war revival by occupying Allied powers.

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      2 months ago

      It (volkswagen lower case) was part of the government prior and during the war.

      It (Volkswagen, the company, upper case) only came into existence after the war. Not a single person involved in the first was involved in the latter.

      It would be wrong to ignore the Nazi connection to the design of the Beetle. But it’s not quite right to say the Volkswagen that shipped the first Beetles was the same as that under the German Labour Front / KdF. The same cannot be said about Mercedes.

      • Thunderbird4@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        Please stop spreading this myth. You and I had this same discussion last year.

        There was never any “uppercase/lowercase” distinction.

        For the sake of anyone else who hasn’t seen this, here is the number plate out of a 1943 Kubelwagen (Nazi military vehicle) with capital-V “Volkswagenwerk G.m.b.H” across the top.

        And here’s the number plate from a 1959 beetle with the exact same name across the top over 15 years later, long after the factory had been returned to German control after being restarted by the British. The company didn’t become Volkswagen AG until 1960.

        Even when referring to the car itself as “the Volkswagen,” it’s still a proper noun and Germans capitalize all of their nouns anyway.