We have updated Flathub's LLM policy to explicitly disallow AI usage for both the submission process and applications being submitted.
https://github.com/flathub-infra/documentation/commit/992f57b30de98ddbd5e80959e9672998c83c8c97
I've had some reservations about it, so the wording before that commit was relatively milder. I know it's an unpopular opinion on the Fediverse, but I do think LLMs are inevitable, and the reality is that you can expect less organically grown code as time goes on. I believe it can be a useful tool in and outside FOSS; I hoped we will see a larger number of apps where authors made some effort beyond prompting an agent. Meanwhile, the number of unpleasant interactions I've had with entitled submitters acting as if they were bestowing their brilliant software upon us idiots who are rejecting it went through the roof in the last month. I'm tired.
As always, we are not applying this retroactively, so any vibecoded apps which were already published will remain available.
Existing apps are grandfathered in and there are other exceptions, but in general LLM generated code is not permitted on the Linux app store anymore.
It rejects anything that’s AI assisted code, documentation or otherwise. Not just vibe coded apps. If flat hub can enforce that, which they won’t be able to, because that rejects an entire section of the software industry who uses modern professional tools (do they just ban everyone that uses jetbrain IDEs or visual Studio or visual Studio code with any form of text completion? Which are all ML (AI) based have been long before llms were a thing)?
If they manage to actually enforce that and do that then flat hub is essentially dead.
Did you reply to the wrong comment? If not, I suggest you re-read the comment and re-check your reading comprehension.
Nowhere did I state anything similar to what you are saying.
I know you’re baiting me, and I know I’m taking the bait, but I expect better on Lemmy as opposed to Reddit.
This is like banning everything that is related to AI and then being surprised that your MRI results no longer are interpreted well because the ML models that have been used to do that for the last decade are no longer available.
Because you don’t know the difference between an LLM and other ML models, which, honestly, seems to be true for the majority of this thread.
Because you don’t know the difference between an LLM and other ML models, which, honestly, seems to be true for the majority of this thread.
<refrain>
Context in communication is king. Nobody today, in a conversational, non-practitioner context, will use the term “AI” to mean anything other than the stuff that’s being crammed repeatedly and at length into every orifice of the body politic without asking for consent in advance: LLMbeciles (and other forms of degenerative AI).
People who babble that there’s lots of AI technologies that yadda yadda yadda are being wilfully obtuse and obfuscatory simply for the sake of being obtuse and obfuscatory. (It’s basically a sea lion tactic, understand. (For context, since context is king, when someone uses “sea lion” in this sort of message they do not mean the literal animal and are not talking about how sea lions hunt. They are referring to a famous comic that has a lot of sea lions up in arms as it revealed their tactic to the masses for edification and derision.))
Yes the term “AI” covers a whole bunch of technology. But nobody today in this group talking about “AI” is talking about fucking genetic algorithms or fucking anthill optimizations or vision recognition systems or any of the other crap you’re going to try to spring on us with your slop-gobbling “A-ha!” moments.
We mean LLMbeciles and other forms of degenerative AI, not fucking MRI analysis.
Go find a slop-gobbling channel to masturbate in or something. You clearly have nothing to contribute here.
Nah, I think they’re right.
Did you read the pr?
It rejects anything that’s AI assisted code, documentation or otherwise. Not just vibe coded apps. If flat hub can enforce that, which they won’t be able to, because that rejects an entire section of the software industry who uses modern professional tools (do they just ban everyone that uses jetbrain IDEs or visual Studio or visual Studio code with any form of text completion? Which are all ML (AI) based have been long before llms were a thing)?
If they manage to actually enforce that and do that then flat hub is essentially dead.
“All the kids are running off the cliff. There’s no point resisting. We should all just run off the cliff.”
There’s going to be a lot of painful readjustment in coding geek circles when the bubble collapses next year.
Did you reply to the wrong comment? If not, I suggest you re-read the comment and re-check your reading comprehension.
Nowhere did I state anything similar to what you are saying.
I know you’re baiting me, and I know I’m taking the bait, but I expect better on Lemmy as opposed to Reddit.
This is like banning everything that is related to AI and then being surprised that your MRI results no longer are interpreted well because the ML models that have been used to do that for the last decade are no longer available.
Because you don’t know the difference between an LLM and other ML models, which, honestly, seems to be true for the majority of this thread.
<refrain>
Context in communication is king. Nobody today, in a conversational, non-practitioner context, will use the term “AI” to mean anything other than the stuff that’s being crammed repeatedly and at length into every orifice of the body politic without asking for consent in advance: LLMbeciles (and other forms of degenerative AI).
People who babble that there’s lots of AI technologies that yadda yadda yadda are being wilfully obtuse and obfuscatory simply for the sake of being obtuse and obfuscatory. (It’s basically a sea lion tactic, understand. (For context, since context is king, when someone uses “sea lion” in this sort of message they do not mean the literal animal and are not talking about how sea lions hunt. They are referring to a famous comic that has a lot of sea lions up in arms as it revealed their tactic to the masses for edification and derision.))
Yes the term “AI” covers a whole bunch of technology. But nobody today in this group talking about “AI” is talking about fucking genetic algorithms or fucking anthill optimizations or vision recognition systems or any of the other crap you’re going to try to spring on us with your slop-gobbling “A-ha!” moments.
We mean LLMbeciles and other forms of degenerative AI, not fucking MRI analysis.
Go find a slop-gobbling channel to masturbate in or something. You clearly have nothing to contribute here.
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