• Velma@lemmy.today
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    3 days ago

    Oh so many side effects. Issue is that pregnancy is worse than most of those side effects and that disproportionally affects women.

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      3 days ago

      The shit women deal with, I don’t see how anyone could look at them and say they’re weak. It’s beyond me.

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        3 days ago

        It’s even better (worse) - women’s self-reported pain levels and symptoms are often dismissed and underestimated by doctors and researchers.

        So even when reporting on the side-effects on birth control, women are not taken seriously.

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          Oh dude I know it. In the beginning of my partner and mine’s relationship, she was constantly throwing up in the middle of the night. This went on for like 3-4 yrs. The doctors gave us a bunch of bullshit about it. Told her basically it was her fault. Ended up being her birth control.

          She had an iud at one time that gave her cysts in her ovaries. I have seen this woman be in so much pain and stuff it down to keep going through the day.

          I’ll fucking fight you (not you) if you say women are weak to my face.

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            I’ll fucking fight you (not you) if you say women are weak to my face.

            Thanks dude/dudette. It’s refreshing to see this energy here and it’s really awesome.

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          What? Are we going with how evolution has made us? Sure. There’s a difference between us, but that doesn’t make em weak. I believe in evolution and nature. With that, I can acknowledge the difference. But weak? Bullshit. The average woman might have different strengths than the average man, but that doesn’t mean shit. We defy nature. Every day, we defy nature. Plus, with that, you could say there’s things they are better at than men.

          My partner is way better at managing things for us. So, should I never lead anything or anyone? I mean, the best managers I’ve had were women. My dad was shit at keeping bills paid, but my ma did it all while cleaning a house. So, should all men be treated like babies who can’t handle money or be responsible for themselves?

          I don’t know about you, bud, but I prefer to be my own human and handle my own shit. My partner is my equal, just like all women are my equal. Cause I don’t know their strengths and weaknesses. They’re a human. They defy nature in whatever way they want, just like me.

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            Clearly this topic makes you a little defensive and that’s a whole lot of extrapolation and assumption I’m not interesting in wading through.

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            Being strong one way doesn’t make women strong in all ways, either. So in some way, that are very visible, women are weak. That’s the answer to the question asked, you don’t need to like it.

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      2 days ago

      iirc, the first daily pills had the dosage of our current morning after pill. From what I understand, the morning after pill makes you feel like complete shit and they were taking it everyday.

      Edit: This reply was meant for unalivejoys comment.

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        What birth control pill are you talking about? This is too vague and I’ve never heard of this.

        Edit: Oh are you talking about the very first birth control pills that were introduced? That would make sense. Modern birth control pills have a lot of side effects, too, so I’m not sure what the point of your comment was.

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          Yes that’s what I meant. It doesn’t make sense because I meant to reply to the comment you replied to and not yours. My mistake, woops.

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        Yeah that’s like totally a valid option for the billions of couples out there.

        Just stop having sex, you silly women! Duh!