All of these issues are from today.
Vscode release notes used to be exciting. Now it’s 70% ”Assistant” improvements. Then you finally get to the next chapter and it’s all like
Terminal
- Added terminal support for Assistant…
soo when are we getting de-slopified vs code fork?
Vscodium exists.
ohh that what that is. I thought it was some AI related bullshit by the way it sounds.
There used to be a tool called codium, for vibe coding. They changed the name to windsurf, iirc.
Codium?
VSCode
Found the issue
Helix is nice, speaking of which.
I tried switching 2 different times now from neovim (with Lazyvim), and I can’t break the muscle memory. Neovim has become an IDE in the terminal for me, and it does more than I need it to
As with anything, breaking muscle memory takes a lot of will power, as well as time. 😅
Take it from someone who went from regular QWERTY row-staggered keyboards to a split column-staggered keyboard with Colemak-DH. Went from 117 words per minute, to 20. It was brutal. Took me a few minutes to reply with simple sentences at work. Still not up to full speed a year later. But the ergonomics are worth it.
Same with Helix IMO. It includes the kitchen sink, and the Selection Editing paradigm makes so much more sense to me compared to macros in *vim. Because it clicked immediately with me, it didn’t take long to get used to it. Been using it professionally and at home for about 2 years.
Helix for terminal has been fantastic; I like GUIs so for me Zed is my “S-Tier”.
Yes, Zed allows you to turn off the Agentic LLM integration off in
settings.json:{ "disable_ai": true }
You are ruining the velocity! How are they supposed to tell shareholders they’re delivering faster than humans, if they keep getting bogged down with issues!? Everyone, stop opening issues!
Image gone 🤕 Did Microslop slopify VSCode?
The image isn’t gone, that hosting server just flat out refuses connections from certain IPs. See if this works for you - https://i.imgur.com/ReCjF8k.jpeg. I’ve heard that Imgur is not accessible in the UK, but Lemmy doesn’t let me upload it because it’s “too tall”.
Did Microslop slopify VSCode?
A long time ago.
Never had this issue with neovim :3
You might in the future. Both vim and neovim are accepting genAI code contributions. There’s a vim-classic fork around, but it is “rolled back” to pre-vimscript9.
I never once understood why people want to write code in a browser that isn’t even the same instance as the one they likely already have open. I can’t understand the mindset of a person who wants JavaScript to power the tools they use. Is it because they hate their hardware? Or the environment?
IDE in general are not that good.
VSCode has a lot of of expansions, enabling a developer to stay in the same environment for any language they code in.
So if you have a multi-language setup, you can do everything in the same IDE.
I work with embedded firmware, and let me tell you that VSCode is miles ahead from manufacturer tools.
I personally don’t use VSCode because microcontroller manufacturer tools usually come with a repeatable easy to install environment, so I can easily handoff the projects to my clients.
But if you ship code and don’t have to ship the environment, VSCode is a good allrounder that can do pretty much anything.
With that said, use VSCodium instead. At least, it removes the analytics from the IDE.
I started with Visual Studio at work, and I just love VSCode by comparison, idk why but it feels so much easier to work with after I got the hang of it.
I hate the environment, that’s why I use vscode. After a long day outside, rolling coal on my 6x6 and littering out in nature, I come home and relax by turning on vscode and let it idle as I throw old tires in the fireplace. If you hate the environment like I do, use vscode.
Because it’s a well-made, useful, simple but extensible program? I really don’t care if it’s “a browser” (it’s not, just part of one). And it being not just a tab in my existing browser lets it do critical IDE things like write files and open a terminal (and be easier to find and differentiate from my research, product management, and testing tabs).
showing off your 12k monitor, eh?
Thats pretty impressive it it was that bad it generated that many reports.
Id only expect to see that in a alpha channel for those excited to try something new.
Vscodium
Practically speaking, why would you pick Gram over Zed? I mean actual advantages
Zed is on the typical VC tech company path, which we all know can only end in one way: enshitification.
I mean, we could simply fork it when it becomes meaningful to do so, right? Gram, as far as I understand, was created as a reaction to the age requirement in the Zed cloud Terms of Service and to AI, which is already something you can disable entirely (there’s a “disable_ai” settings option dedicated to that). I don’t think that makes much sense.
Do you work for Zed or something? Why are you against this?
If you’re just a user, then when (not if) the project fully enshittifies, you’ll be happy Gram exists.
Do you work for Zed or something?
Nope. I do have a single contribution to Zed and an extension. No attachment to the community or project though. But I do see that they are passionate enough to walk back on decisions that their community tells them is bad.
you’ll be happy Gram exists.
That’s the thing. I don’t think so. Looking at its commit history, Gram is already significantly behind on features and more importantly, fixes. If/when enshittification happens, I’d rather have an up-to-date fork and I’d rather it be a fork for a more valid reason.
Edit: to clarify: I’m not really against gram, i just don’t understand why it exists right now. It also seems like the dev is relatively new to rust. All in all, it just feels like something that should have happened a bit later.
You know, It’s time I play with VSCodium again.
I used it for a long time but ended up having issues with the SSH plugin and the Python support that forced me to go back to regular VSCode. But that was so long ago they surely fixed it by now…Just be aware MS did the MS thing of not permitting some plugins to work on non vscode installations like the corporate dicks they are.
true for eg MS’ C++ extensions or copilot - they actively block installing and running it on codium, based on some internal “app name” config of the IDE.
there’s a workaround for that though. install both codium and vsc, install extensions on vsc, symlink the “.vscode” folder to “. vscode-oss”, and edit codium’s app info json (forgot filename) to match vsc’s (mainly the “app name”).
last step needs to be done after each update, but can applied with a script, happy to share if anyone needs it. Just make sure the installed codium- and vsc versions match.
what did you use instead, especially for Python?
I asked in a random thread about linux IDEs, thinking there’d be several to the level of VSCode and didn’t find anything recommended that was particularly new, and ended up using pulsar for taking notes (it keeps sessions with “unsaved” files somewhere so I just dump stuff into there, manages searches of file contents from certain folders like VS code) and VS Codium for development (it has ctrl+click to find usages/takes to declerations) , but I haven’t gotten python integration working on there, and would like to try something new out.
I don’t want to use Kate or NeoVim since I want a GUI and integration with “compilers”/interpreters by using buttons and such, but I haven’t found anything that doesn’t seem like its from the late 90s early 00s, which doesn’t work with my shitty eyes and 1080 displays.
PyCharm? Spacemacs ? Both work fine as Python IDEs (so can neovim, but it does’t have a GUI)
I thought that was a CVS receipt
Don’t forget it comes with copilot which will send all your code for training by default.
You’d have to have opted out on your GitHub to prevent that.
It does not come with Copilot, that’s an extension you need to install and then sign in using your Github account. I’m a Microslop hater as much as any sane person, and people should definitely opt out if they want to use Copilot. But don’t spread FUD making people think it uploads everything to Microsoft just when using VS Code. It’s perfectly fine to use VS Code without installing the Copilot extension.
