I notice this especially with my Norwegian learning. People are rude, call me names, or make fun of me on Reddit for using the wrong word or “en” vs “et” or using a direct translation because I don’t know how they say it in Norwegian, like saying somethng like «Ingen av bedriften din!» instead of «Dette er ikke din sak» (according to the casual version of Bing Translate) whereas a Norwegian-speaking Fediverse member would just say something like “You’re doing good, but it’s actually _____.”
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Idk man, the first comment I made here got assaulted with hatred. It’s been fine since then but it definitely had me worried.
I have been on here 2 years. First 1.5 years it was pretty fun.
Now I barely go by 3 days without someone telling me how shitty and awful I am for having a different opinion than them, or that I’m boomer because think AI doesn’t belong in the classroom.
The novelty wore off, now this place is just as much an echo chamber as any other dank corner of the internet lol.
there are still some pretty cool posts with interesting comments, a lot more than reddit.
but there as it grows there are more and more stupid people who are just here to be angry and hateful, who think anyone who doesn’t agree with their biased agendas is hateful and angry and who just sling personal attacks at other commenters. because they aren’t interested in the issues at hand or discussion of them, they are just interested in feeling superior to the ‘enemy’. and their post histories are usually quote pointed in regurgitating whatever grievances they have, like thinking everyone who doesn’t agree with them 100% is a Nazi, and deserve to be subjected to violence…
my first sitewide ban from reddit was 5 years ago and it was because I have an outdoor cat, and the ‘cats must always been indoors’ nutbags reported me for promoting animal abuse. was a real wakeup call to how incredibly toxic people can be over other people being different than them and how willing they are to use violence and harassment to silence others… over a difference of animal care choices. God, I own a dog now and I have had ‘raw food only’ idiots lecture me how I’m abusing my dog for feeding her regular dog food… and then they go on and on about if you can’t spend $500/mo on BARF (Biologically Appropriate Raw Food) you shouldn’t’ be allowed to have a dog…
to me it feels like the idiot nutbags I knew in college who would come into the cafeteria and scream about how they were on hunger strike and if you weren’t too you were evil, are now literally everywhere.
You just haven’t found the right counts yet.
Watch this:
Firefox sucks donkey dick.
Actually everyone on Lemmy hates Firefox now because AI
yep. and if you point out that firefox AI features are entirely optional and you can turn them off… you get told to go fuck yourself.
or if you recommend another browser, you get told that browser is also awful and shitty and you should go fuck yourself for suggesting it. ALSO YOU ARE CLEARLY A NAZI FOR NOT THE SAME LINUX DISTRO AND BROWSER THAT I DO.
because I am fighting facism by using Debian and Librewolf!!! And if you aren’t too then you are on the side of the fascists!
It’s because that is the end game of upvote/downvote communities.
All is them become whatever gets engagement. Enjoy lemmy while it’s good, but if we get big it will only be a few years until we are the same.
bingo.
already the ‘news’ communities are lemmy are full of shitty articles with misleading headlines and most of the comments never read the article. they are just ragebait being raged at, and when someone calls it out, they often get downvoted heavily by the rage addicts who just want to be angry at editorialized bullshit headlines.
and those threads have way more activity than articles that are more modest and truthful about their content. because that doesn’t illicit strong emotional reaction from the readers or play into their biases.
and often the people who post this stupid crap, go into the comments and just insult and harass the commentators that don’t agree with the raw emotional content being pushed. and if you look at their post history, they are spamming inflammatory bullshit all day. they are rage-addicts trying to promote outrage and enraged that others aren’t as outraged as they are.
That hasn’t really been my experience. Lemmy seems nicer on the surface because most of the userbase is ideologically aligned, so conflict is less likely. But once you make the wrong noises about something, plenty of people show up ready to prove just how mean and horrible they can actually be.
Also, on Reddit I never had anyone follow me around trying to cause reputational damage by spreading false accusations about me.
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I hope you got squared away ok
Nah, they’re still on it - and considering how much you’ve been discussing AI here too, it’s more than likely you’ve run into them as well.
Being careful with your words helps to some extent, but then there are people like this who don’t really care what you actually say. If they perceive you to be on the wrong side of an issue they care deeply about, they slap this cartoon-villain stereotype on you and treat it as fact. It’s not about what you said - it’s about who they think says those kinds of things. It’s intentional misinterpretation and ad hominems all the way down. No point even trying to engage with their insane troll logic.
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But once you make the wrong noises about something, plenty of people show up ready to prove just how mean and horrible they can actually be.
This is true. Linux isn’t my platform of choice, and the “passion” of the responses that provokes is remarkable.
didn’t you know that Linux is the Jesus Christ of operating systems?
It will save us from our computing sins and heal the world and bring forth a computing paradise!
Also, on Reddit I never had anyone follow me around trying to cause reputational damage by spreading false accusations about me.
Why would you use your real name or reveal any information about you here or on Reddit anyway unless you have to?
I don’t. That’s what makes it even more bizzare. I don’t get what they have to gain from trying to stain an anonymous account.
it feels good
There’s plenty of rude people here are you kidding? People are rude to me just because I’m on lemmy.ml lmfao…
You could always switch instance though. That’s a thing you can do in the Fediverse. You can’t do that on Reddit.
Why would I change instances because people are misinformed about MLs?
As long as you’re not a tankie!
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People tend to be assholes. The more people in one place, the lower the chance of nobody being an asshole, and it does usually only take one. Then you add the karma system, which causes people to perform for the internet points. It’s not just people being a natural asshole for any number of reasons: people also reward the wrong things such as asshole behavior, Redditsplaining, zingers and stupid cringeworthy clichés. The karma factor is lower here, but still a thing.
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Shitty people feel big by making others feel small.
Lots of people are shitty. Here and on reddit. And easy way to attack people is over typos and grammar.
Reddit is full of angsty teenagers, bots, and American leftists that hate their dads. Sometimes they’re all the same account.
Hope you find more friendly folks here 🫡
