I want to apologize for changing the description without telling people first. After reading arguments about how AI has been so overhyped, I’m not that frightened by it. It’s awful that it hallucinates, and that it just spews garbage onto YouTube and Facebook, but it won’t completely upend society. I’ll have articles abound on AI hype, because they’re quite funny, and gives me a sense of ease knowing that, despite blatant lies being easy to tell, it’s way harder to fake actual evidence.
I also want to factor in people who think that there’s nothing anyone can do. I’ve come to realize that there might not be a way to attack OpenAI, MidJourney, or Stable Diffusion. These people, which I will call Doomers from an AIHWOS article, are perfectly welcome here. You can certainly come along and read the AI Hype Wall Of Shame, or the diminishing returns of Deep Learning. Maybe one can even become a Mod!
Boosters, or people who heavily use AI and see it as a source of good, ARE NOT ALLOWED HERE! I’ve seen Boosters dox, threaten, and harass artists over on Reddit and Twitter, and they constantly champion artists losing their jobs. They go against the very purpose of this community. If I hear a comment on here saying that AI is “making things good” or cheering on putting anyone out of a job, and the commenter does not retract their statement, said commenter will be permanently banned. FA&FO.
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Fuck AI. I’m still learning lemmy.
I’m glad to be here. Fuck AI
Original Desc: A place for all those who loathe machine-learning and its endorsement – and to document the knaves behind this dismal industry. Proud supporter of human artists. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
I literally gotten threatened to be doxxed (and physical harm) the other day in a thread I made that was negative about AI.
Welcome to the club.
I have a question about if I’m allowed to be here. Here’s my stance:
- As a CS person, I find the algorithms that run AI intellectually interesting.
- The way AI is being used as a society, to put people out of work and replace human-made work with slop, is very very bad. (I support the sag-aftra strikers.)
- I think it’s especially bad that artists are being put out of work, and that big companies think that copyright should protect mickey mouse and not starving artists. This is where most of my “fuck AI” drive comes from.
- I think AI could in the future be made to not be slop, with some future new algorithms, but we’re not there yet. It’s not theoretically impossible or anything though. Doomer opinion: if AI actually becomes as powerful as the boosters say it will be, then it could be an x-risk for humanity. I’m not saying that to make AI sound really impressive, I just think we need to be cautious about it.
- Currently, LLMs are sometimes useful, but only in the right context and when used properly. For instance, AI is pretty good at NLP. It’s also useful for explaining opaque C++ error messages. It’s not useful for ghiblification or summarizing search results or whatever it is Altman is trying to peddle. It might be able to help with protein folding and other pharmaceutical research.
- The biggest reason that AI is bad is because capitalism is bad. Without capitalism, we could focus on the actually good uses of AI.
It’s just fantasy in regards to the replacing everything. The same thing happened back in the 60s and the 70s with the fantasy that computers were going to make everything in life easy peasy. Flying cars and all of that. No doubt computers have made our lives easier, and have progressed us as a society (debatable when it comes to social media). But it isnt the end all, be all that it was promised to be. I still don’t have a hoverboard or a personal flying car, which I DO have to admit I’m super bummed about.
Just look at the paperless society era. We still print stuff out, 40-50 years later. Maybe a lot less, but it didn’t put us all out of jobs, it just made us work smarter and maybe made things a little easier to reference.
That’s all this AI stuff is, its just the next evolution of reference. If anyone thinks it’s ready to put me out of a job, whelp I double dog dare them. One company I’m associated with is at this stage, drunk on the AI. It’s all just super disconnected execs fantasizing in between drunken lunches and boat purchases. Their day is coming, don’t worry.
LOL, they think twitter artists make art for money. Dumbass! cries
I don’t understand the glee with taking job from people by stealing their data. Those people deserve better.
They see artists as snobs and elites. People they can’t match up to with their own skills that are freaking out when someone invents a machine that can do art ‘better’ (faster with less effort regardless of quality) than them.
That’s why they’ll always talk about how AI “democratizes art” or “makes art available to the masses”, because they see artists who have put a lot of time and effort into their craft not as just highly skilled and well-trained/taught individuals, but as elitists that don’t want them to have the same opportunities.
To them, AI slop becoming more common isn’t just a consequence of AI being cheap even if the outputs are garbage, it’s ‘the market’ deciding that artists just aren’t valued anymore, and that they’re finally taking down the elites that have held art captive for so long.
When you see it from that perspective, it’s no wonder they jump for joy when artists complain about AI and lose their jobs.
I straight up would’ve replied with “kys” and the Low Tier God meme if someone sent that to me LMAO
but it won’t completely upend society.
it is upending society. we’re re-engineering our entire energy infrastructure around it. pft.
I do want to understand, I am no “booster” by any means and I think on the whole AI is being used in some abhorrent ways, but I don’t think the technology is the problem I think the problem is it’s use to steal art and by corporations to cut people out of the picture, and I do think there are some beneficial applications of AI and that it is not unilaterally negative or evil. Just being used in a lot of shitty evil ways right now. Does that mean I am unwelcome here? Genuinely asking.
Eh, you’re welcome here.
Yeah, definitely, the problem is we live in a culture where “but we might make money off it!” trumps every legal and ethical consideration. I’d say LLMs (AI does not exist) have their legitimate uses, too.
Can I join the antiAI taliban? lalalalallalalal joking not joking lalalalalalal fuck israel and AI … boost dez nuts not AI Slop. No means no christofash_fartcoin_Techbro
