Have you never watched their shows?
I was kinda thinking the same thing
Oliver already basically does. Stewart is a die-hard neoliberal and it drives me crazy people don’t see it.
I wouldn’t call him “die-hard”. He’s a neoliberal, but I think he’s clearly pretty conflicted.
He seems like a closet Berniecrat. He hasn’t said it, but I think he is probably a Warren voter.
I wish he was more socialist, but it’s clear that he hates Jefferies and Schumer, and has a sinking suspicion that Democrats are just the Washington Generals, but is still in the denial phase.
I listen to his podcast, and it’s mostly good. He’s still a lib, but he’s clearly working on it. It especially comes out when he’s taking with his producers, who he clearly hired to help him see his blind spots.
I like him.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. I think Stewart has a positive effect on politics overall, even if he does drive me nuts occasionally. People shouldn’t put him on a pedestal, but similarly they shouldn’t call him full neoliberal.
Shit’s nuanced.
Oliver practices criticism that could align with anticapitalism, but I have not heard him actually properly criticize the capitalist mode of production. He strikes me as more of a social democrat
No no no. Here’s what we do.
Step 1: have them on as guests for The Late Show with Steven Colbert.
Step 2: They should kiss. Like…a lot.
There is no step 3. It might be true that we’re trying to accomplish different things.
John Stewart is way out of Oliver’s league.
John Oliver looks like a batch of over whipped vanilla pudding in a toupee.
You son of a bitch. I’m in
Or maybe just John Oliver - if he can promote turning off privacy settings for Meta apps under a “johnoliverwantsyourraterotica” domain, he can promote socialism without using socialism and also under cover of rat erotica.
they already serve their purpose: making leftists realize they’re leftists by watching liberals do the same goddamn shit
you start watching Jon Stewart as a progressive and end up a dem soc by the end of the year. fast forward a bit and you’ve shed capitalism entirely, having always realized something was fundamentally wrong but never having the right language for it.
Isn’t that what they do?
Not really. There’s progressive principle in there but I think they’re just “one of the good ones” liberals.
Of course, I haven’t watched them in a while so, maybe they’ve changed?
Why
