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  • My point is, even a racist bridge has uses as a bridge. The solution is not to tear down the bridge, it’s to address the systematic racism. Likewise with GenAI tech, we are not involved in making it, nor do we promote that the way it was created was correct. We just say that people using it are not necessarily reinforcing the problem, anymore than a random pedestrian crossing that bridge would be reinforcing racism.

    Yes, the way the tech was created and is being used, is problematic; an imperfect creation of a deeply flawed system. I’m not disputing that. I’m disputing that any and all uses of an imperfect creation are by necessity “fascist”


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    I feel the author routinelly conflates technology with technological implementations to make their point. For example, they conflate surveillance, with camera equipment and they conflate bridges, with city planning. What me and others are pointing out, is that we’re not hostile to GenAI as the technology (like cameras, bridges) but we’re absolutely against the popular (i.e. corporate) GenAI implementations.

    I feel there’s no harm whatsoever to use GenAI to personal gratification. Games, Porn, Shortcuts on boring but known tasks etc. But there’s absolutely harm to using corporate AI to do so, and there’s absolutely harm in using it for purposes outside of it (facts, propaganda, agents etc)

    And yes, any technology built in capitalist systems, will be inevitably corrupted from its inception from those systems. This is not exclusive to GenAI as a technology however.















  • I feel it’s changing positively, as instance admins and our tool-sets mature, and more and more people are becoming permanent residents as they’re either permabanned on reddit (so they have no alternative) or they recognize the value of a system that is not and cannot be controlled by a corporate entity and they US billionaire interests behind it.

    However I’m also concerned that our yet small size has protected us from truly existential issues like dedicated spam and propaganda orgs, especially those who would utilize GenAI to be more covert. I’ve already published tools like the fediseer to help prepare for this, but I really hope to see more people per-emptively getting ready for this. I see way too many doe-eyed admins firing up instances without a care in the world, open registration, no captchas, no botnet protections etc and they either burn out and close shop after a few months of firefighting, or get defederated, or they have to re-learn a painful lesson the rest of us did.

    This does give me an idea, we do need a more holistic “So you want to open a threadiverse instance” guide to give such pointers to new admins and way to get support from others. Hmmm…



  • Has a sense of capitalistic entitlement in it. You feel that you deserve the product of art but don’t respect the people who do put in the time and effort learning how to make it enough to properly compensate them for the time that they spent learning the profession.

    This is really not true at all. Me and others not having the time to learn to draw (and compose and direct and act and and and…) doesn’t mean we disrespect those who do. We just want to make something to enjoy for ourselves. And yes, those who don’t have the time, also (typically) don’t have the money. Again, it’s a classist argument to claim that everyone has either the time to learn, or the money to commission.

    Likewise, it’s infuriating to see privileged takes of “oh just spend a few hours here and there”. Motherfucker, there’s people who do not have a few hours here and there. There’s people who work 2 jobs, who raise children alone, who are primary caregivers for others. They’re not taking anything from artists by generating an image they like in the 1 minute they have available.

    I am of the opinion of, let people enjoy things that bring them joy. I have no issue with GenAI if it’s for strictly non-commercial personal use, especially when it’s using open-weight local models who’ve already been trained. I do think that GenAI work should not be able to be monetized at all, but I don’t make the rules. But people moralizing against random enthusiasts because “just learn to draw bruv” is never going to convince anyone or achieve anything. However convincing people to not support massive corpos will.