instagram facebook whats app and certainly others that arent as well known

ah ah it happen. Take care

well, nobody here hold the value i hold so it s great to come here, simply titme to time cause it s quickly tiresome. Also pretty sure 4chan is quite a big echochamber just with more eddgy take.

I guess we talk about evrything regarding that matter. have a good one

that was what i was saying ? When i said got it was to reference game of throne that was wild in discussion on social media and a good exemple of how ppl use theml before political discussion became the norm. I agree with what you say, im just not quite understanding what you mean with second screen experience

u mean like how ppl talk about the current event like got was at the time ? Yeah social network were really different before the 2015 and apparition of trump

wow.

If the place is generating money for a nazi, it’s a nazi app

yeah and if u help a nazi own buisness then u are a nazi like the most prominent nazi figures of our century like berny sander aoc clinton etc. That’s a quick fallacy that doesn any true weight irl. The same way 95% of irl ppl wont call elon musk a nazi. A dumb billionaire, technofacist even yeah. But nazi really ?

I can’t help it if the pope (who is only very recently by sad coincidence a voice of reason)

Just by curisity what s the pope have said in the past that wasnt reasonable ? and why just recently he became a voice of reason ? Can u explain it without mentioning American external politics ? If not i feel it s likely you are really opinionated on that subject and not really objective.

Most of my people

I mean i dont necessarly need a place to have my ppl or worse only them, the opposite i prefer. Hate the echochamber effect. Also the interraction except if based on personal relation are often meaningless

Fediverse can last you way longer than 5 minutes of scrolling if you’re spacing your activity out and actually interacting. My terminally online ass is way too present and I’ve got plenty to do. Have you looked at any instances besides lemmy? there’s like an actually good piracy comm here. and so many people who will just teach you stuff for nothing. it’s great! bunch of them helped me resurrect a dead ROM collection torrent just for the crack of it.

Well i have check some of them. Too little trafic and the subject are too much similar and quite often the same as the day before. Diversity of opinions really matter for a social network. Twitter could be even more dogshit bluesky will never surpass it bc of it. It s ideologcailly capture. U have this effect here too, just less prononced and with the federation u can escape it so less an issue.

I’m just advocating for the one that doesn’t reward you for fighting people or giving MAGA free adcents

I really wanted this conv to not derail on a my political opinion are the only morale right to hold all the other are bad. But here we are. At least it renforce my opinion that ppl having issue with twitter is only based on elon musk. Have a good day

nazi app

that s higly dismissive i feel. On wich app do u have the pope your country leader and most of your influencer/video creator ?

but it really is a dumb way to spend leisure time compared to a smaller place with voting

Only based on your algorithm’s recommendation and usage i feel. On lemmy in 3~5 min a day i have seen eveything interesting to me so what i do if i have that scrolling need ? go on tiktok ?

Or better yet just not being online

Yeah it s better to take a bicycle rather than a car but that s not a good solution for 99% of the ppl

I mean social network arent bad by default but they all have the default of having the capabilmity of being bad even if u have an unlimited type of control of them. Quite a challenge, but the solution saying just dont use it doesnt really answerr thes question.

odly specific. Saw a lot of ragebait tweeet on gender issue like that and when we were abble to check where the account were based of it was always comming from third world place where they farm controversial takes for monetary gain. Glad i have none of those now. But yeah the monetization of a social platform and that a “creator” can earn revenue is such a fucking dumb idea. Hate it, and all those consequences or need to implemented in another way.

yeah sometime the algorithm has weird phase, but im happy with 1/3 being animals and cute stuff rather than the heavy clash right/left that it serve me a lot at one point

true, even if i feel the suck empire is way more predatory

Do you mean with this post? There have been downvotes but the discussions are positive. Also you have to give it time, things take a while to get exposure.

i meant with the one i linked. It s a post that just talk about quitting the zuck empire and lot of ppl use whatsapp

If you know the difference between having restraint and not, then it seems like you’re already capable of having the online experience you want to have, no? Those skills have great results here

I will say it really depends on the subject. My experience here is mostly no less different from reddit tbh. On reddit my most stupid ban was for saying that supporting hamas wich is an terrorist organisation that does crime against humanity was wrong. On lemmy it was for saying, calling your political opponent facist/nazi doesn’t give you the right to kill them in the street. But that s the game and im happy to contribute to foss project and the idea of decentralized authority/internet.

But the point of my post wasnt really to try to diss lemmy even with his default on the technicality i think it s the best we have rn. My post was more aimed to know if toward the elen musk hate the twitter hate made sens. And i feel it s mostly elon musk hate. Recently one emulator had a great realeases with lot of feature and the most upvoted post on lemmy about it was how it was bad they annouce it on twitter. And saying just yeah they announce it on the platform with the half a billion of monthly active users and not one with 10 or 100 less than that is the most sensible option wasnt eaylly apreciated.

i mean what is the bad stuff it does ? only concrete evidence wich should be easy to provide since it’s the only one that made their recommendation algorithm open source

i mean just cause i ask a question that s percieve against the value held by the majority i got dislike on stuff that isnt even link to the question or even is supported by the majority view here ( . Not complaining i dont care but i have a good idea of the majority position here on most subject. ) like why ppl should dowvote this https://lemmy.world/post/45838935/23315521 other than elon bad ?

To me at least what your describing isnt inherent to the tool but the usage you do with. I’m able to have a lot of nice conversation with ppl on twitter. Most of the time it only depends on the tone of my answer. Even yeah in multiple case i have answer that s just rage bait or stupid as possible but to me thoses only depend on my restrain and i dont often engage with them or it s for my divertissement.

no im not saying that cause one is bad the other is ok. Im rather saying wich critics are specifically toward twitter that dont apply to instagram

Cause we can make critics towards the two all days with all their fault and faillure

yup. And fuck jack dorsey to never wanted to change it. At least now wer have the possibility … behind a subscription

so like every social platform except 5 ?

on some subject u can’t even have a conversation cause u dont enough users. I will never ask tech question on some subject here or for that matter on a lot of subject. Quick exemple if i need to know how to make proton run under wayland of origin games, even with and higher count that normal linux users here im not sure i will get an answer

all zuck property also did and way before his trump sucking cause they discover it create more engagement. U hadf a study on the matter. It s an interestiong read. Also that pov often doesnt acknowledge wich create the discourse, the user or the social network

Maybe that seems similar to that discussion you’re referring to but the voting approach here isn’t dictating what you see, just kind of more the order you see it in.

I see the point u making but it s kinda the same on twitter. now by default it s not the most liked that u will see first, it s the more likely to please u that u will see first ( u can revert it but the default is this way) I agree with you but it kinda sound like samll details and not really big difference.

But the fact that the beef is seen is reliant on them having followers.

Sometime yes sometime no. Like i said me having a little follower count was abble to ratio easilly account 1000x bigger than mine simply cause they said stupid shit and the point wasnt any of the follower count just what was said.

What s weird is the 2 system are different and with the fediverse and the power of open source anybody can comme with a better solution yet we dont have the one solution that is far better

i agree it s just ihave an, hard time to consider follower count as a power mechanism the way you describe it. Obviously it hold power but it s not as strong as you suggest imo. To me it it often look like as it was different conversation on different instance wich ppl holding different veiwpoint. And yes on a topic u can have someone with massive follower that hold a view that you deem false or bad but that doesnt mean they are right cause they have more like. At least that s how i feel. just to illustrate my point it would be like one post that hold libertarian view had a lot of upvote and somebody on another instance that s more socialist will answer it/repost it with more upvote. That doesnt necessarly reflect wich is right