That’s some goddamm primitive shit right there. Great culture you got.
Out of the two of you, it seems you’re the one putting words in OPs mouth. The above is what was said, and it clearly mentions their culture.
Hell you could even argue they didn’t even mention the lashings; but that seems just as insincere as claiming they didn’t take aim at a specific culture.
Nobody is defending lashing. It’s the Claim that lashes are part of Iranian culture that’s being questioned, as it enables scapegoating and dehumanisation of a people based on nationality; a good example is the genocide within Gaza and how it was largely whitewashed by claiming the actions of hamas equal the actions of Palestinians.
It’s no different to claiming that the abduction and rape/torture of citizens based on ethnicity is American culture… I’m not American, but i’d assume there’s widespread disgust at all the concentration camps ICE have set up and inhumane treatment going on inside them, so wouldn’t claim it’s part of American culture, but just because I won’t brandish every American as a rapist doesn’t mean I agree with rape and torture.
I don’t think anyone is claiming that this is part of Iranian culture. At most, it’s part of islamic culture and more specifically the Twelver sect of Shi’a Islam
Most Iranians don’t want anything to do with this shit
most Iranians don’t want anything to do with this shit
Exactly that mate. Problem with the definition of ‘which culture OP meant’ is that it’s all just conjecture on both our ends.
All we can say for certain, is that OP made a statement about a culture being primitive and promptly exited stage right.
We’re now all left here farting over whether they were talking about all Iranians, all Muslims, or a specific subset of Muslim culture with their blanket statement.
Dehumanisation based on culture/ethnicity/race etc… is a tried and tested fascist playbook that at best is designed to divide the working classes, but can lead to far worse situations, like ethnic cleansing and genocide.
I’m certainly no authority on the matter, I just think it’s best to err against using such language, Lest we play into our oppressors hands and so forth.
Literacy is dead. You can call an action primitive and in a separate sentence sarcastically congratulate the culture.
You can have a non primitive culture that includes primitive punishment without having a primitive culture. Thats why the sentence makes sense.
If they thought it was a primitive culture the punishment would be fitting and specifically calling the action primitive would make no sense. If they thought it was primitive they would just say what you’re accusing them of and refer to the culture as primitive shit.
They can both be bad. Lashes for not covering your hair us awful. The US is also carrying out brutal and terrible things. US government actions don’t mean everyone should ignore the shitty things the Iranian government does.
I included the “what about” in my initial response, but realized how pointless it is to argue with who deny words when they’re written in the thread they’re arguing about.
Sure, buddy-boy. We’re doing real honest to goodness humanitarian shit here in the USA. Get bent.
I don’t believe they mentioned anything about the USA. That was you making an assumption. For all I know, they believe the same about the USA.
Also, chill out. Telling a stranger to get bent is wild.
So is calling an entire culture primitive.
They didnt say the entire culture was primitive. They said the lashing was primitive.
Out of the two of you, it seems you’re the one putting words in OPs mouth. The above is what was said, and it clearly mentions their culture.
Hell you could even argue they didn’t even mention the lashings; but that seems just as insincere as claiming they didn’t take aim at a specific culture.
Well if your culture contains lashing women for something like this, still kinda weird to want to defend it
Nobody is defending lashing. It’s the Claim that lashes are part of Iranian culture that’s being questioned, as it enables scapegoating and dehumanisation of a people based on nationality; a good example is the genocide within Gaza and how it was largely whitewashed by claiming the actions of hamas equal the actions of Palestinians.
It’s no different to claiming that the abduction and rape/torture of citizens based on ethnicity is American culture… I’m not American, but i’d assume there’s widespread disgust at all the concentration camps ICE have set up and inhumane treatment going on inside them, so wouldn’t claim it’s part of American culture, but just because I won’t brandish every American as a rapist doesn’t mean I agree with rape and torture.
I don’t think anyone is claiming that this is part of Iranian culture. At most, it’s part of islamic culture and more specifically the Twelver sect of Shi’a Islam
Most Iranians don’t want anything to do with this shit
Exactly that mate. Problem with the definition of ‘which culture OP meant’ is that it’s all just conjecture on both our ends.
All we can say for certain, is that OP made a statement about a culture being primitive and promptly exited stage right.
We’re now all left here farting over whether they were talking about all Iranians, all Muslims, or a specific subset of Muslim culture with their blanket statement.
Dehumanisation based on culture/ethnicity/race etc… is a tried and tested fascist playbook that at best is designed to divide the working classes, but can lead to far worse situations, like ethnic cleansing and genocide.
I’m certainly no authority on the matter, I just think it’s best to err against using such language, Lest we play into our oppressors hands and so forth.
Literacy is dead. You can call an action primitive and in a separate sentence sarcastically congratulate the culture.
You can have a non primitive culture that includes primitive punishment without having a primitive culture. Thats why the sentence makes sense.
If they thought it was a primitive culture the punishment would be fitting and specifically calling the action primitive would make no sense. If they thought it was primitive they would just say what you’re accusing them of and refer to the culture as primitive shit.
They can both be bad. Lashes for not covering your hair us awful. The US is also carrying out brutal and terrible things. US government actions don’t mean everyone should ignore the shitty things the Iranian government does.
“Iran is doing some pretty awful shit to a particular citizen of theirs.”
“Well wah, what about the U.S?!??”
Like, seriously? You must have practiced this in the mirror before you typed this, you basement dwelling weirdo
I included the “what about” in my initial response, but realized how pointless it is to argue with who deny words when they’re written in the thread they’re arguing about.
Uh-huh, and what about the “what about”?
You didn’t seriously sit on this for 2 days? Really?
Basement. Dwelling. Weirdo. Make sure mommy doesn’t forget the ketchup for your dino nuggies.
No. I didn’t. I just don’t log into this shit and respond all the time. Do you?
Yeah, wouldn’t set a foot there either.