this is very ignorant.

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…if I make the choice to drink. Then I make the choice to drive. Should I not be responsible for all what happens after my choice?

You are held responsible, that’s how it works in lots of (maybe most) places. If you are drunk driving while leaving a bar though, the bartender is also held liable for over-serving you and/or allowing you to drive.

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Like now in Hollywood they are now going after the supposed drug dealers instead of blaming the star who made the choice to use hard drugs and they knew the consequences?

Pretty sure they’ve always gone after illegal drug dealers and that people are allowed to have any empathy they want toward whomever.

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Why should we celebrate or say good job to people who say I have been clean for such and such long?

Because addiction is incredibly hard to overcome and just because someone has become addicted to something does not mean they are worth less than anyone else. This is like suggesting that if you get in a car accident and sustain severe injuries, and the doctor says you’ll likely never walk again, but you try every day and eventually regain the ability to walk, it should not be celebrated. You made the decision to get into a car knowing its potential consequences, did you not? Who cares if you made a bad choice and overcame the odds?

Are you suggesting that just because someone made a choice that affected their life poorly that they should not be encouraged to heal and live a healthier lifestyle? If so, that seems pretty cruel and hypocritical to me. I’m sure you’ve had to recover from a poor choice you made at one point in your life.

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They made the choice to use whatever drug and they should live with the consequences.

Sometimes that’s true, someone gets curious and tries a drug, then gets hooked. But you’re making a lot of assumptions here.

First, who says they chose to try the drug? Back to the car accident example, lets imagine a person gets severely injured and the emergency room doctor administers an opiate for the pain. Suppose that this person is unaware that they are already genetically prone to addiction (this just means they’re more likely to get hooked on a thing than others may be) and that first hit or prescription that the doctor gives them is all it takes to become addicted. Now they’ve got to go through the rest of their life trying to avoid a relatively easy to get substance that creates urges likely more powerful than anything you have ever felt before, other than maybe hunger or thirst.

Secondly, you’re assuming they know the consequences. Not everyone is so educated. Some people have drugs pushed on them when they’re still kids or teenagers when they either don’t know any better or, their still undeveloped brains don’t quite comprehend the idea of long-term consequences. Do these people (or any people, for that matter) deserve to live with consequences they either didn’t know about, didn’t understand, didn’t foresee, or didn’t have an actual choice in? Even if you do decide they “deserve” these consequences, is no one who makes a mistake allowed to want something better for themselves? Should people stop having their own emotions and desiring a better future just because you look down on them?

Also, who says they made the choice to use a particular addictive drug? Maybe they went to a party and wanted to smoke some marijuana, which is relatively harmless and much easier to quit if one finds themselves using it too much. They have a joint passed to them, smells like pot, they take a hit, and now they find it’s been laced with some other drug. What if they liked it a lot and now they’re seeking out something they didn’t even choose to try in the first place.

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It should not be celebrated that they rectified a very wrong choice years ago

Why not? Should people not be celebrated for growing and working to become better versions of themselves? Can no one make a mistake without becoming irredeemable in your eyes?

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when they were not suppose to make that decision in the first place or even put themselves in that position.

Aside from what I talked about above regarding how one may be administered drugs without being given a choice in the matter, who are you or anyone else to decided what someone is “supposed to” do? Is your way to live the only way one should live? Is your method of decision making infallible and the only method that should be used?

What if I say you’re not “supposed” to talk out of your ass about topics of which you clearly know very little? My belief about how one is “supposed to” act has clearly not stopped you but you’ve put yourself in this position and now have the foreseeable consequence of having to read a reply like this one.

If one day you change your mind and decide maybe you don’t have enough information to draw judgement on tens of millions of people you’ve never met, I believe you should be “celebrated [for having] rectified a very wrong choice”.

I sincerely hope you never have to deal with anything like addiction.

Why do you only want to hold them responsible for their negative actions, but then refuse to give them credit for their positive actions?

The only contradiction is that you get to decide which actions they should be held accountable for.

Honestly, this whole post just sounds like you’re jealous of all the attention that someone else, who truly deserves it, is getting.

Do you want people to change their behavior in positive ways or not?

Also, lots of people use drugs as self-medication (though usually counterproductive), and I find it hard to blame them for that, given the lack of access to healthcare, social services, workers rights and other things you need to live a good life. e.g. Prince didn’t take the drugs he died from because he wanted to party, but because he was in pain and couldn’t get pain medication through proper channels.

I think because we dont just one day say hey I think I will try meth today and in our difficult moments we do something stupid and addictive, its really hard to break addictions. Constantly the addiction demands you keep doing it, but, you choose not to. Even years later that addiction calls you, maybe not as strong, but, its there and choosing better is commendable. Anytime someone turns their life around its commendable. If you have an addiction to killing people and you stop thats awesome, great job! Doing drugs only hurts the person doing them, you dont get the same praise when you hurt other people though. A chemical addiction is a very hard thing to break.

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