• Seleni@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Again, you’re assigning a value of zero to someone else’s property.

    So, speaking of putting words in people’s mouths, I never said that.

    What I am saying is, if you see someone about to touch your stuff without asking, then the usual, sensible action is to say something along the lines of ‘hey, stop!’ Not tackle them to the ground like a linebacker.

    Yes, golf clubs are expensive. I have friends who golf, and one of the things that has convinced me I don’t want to is them talking about the price of their clubs.

    However, I have never yet seen a golf club that is so fragile that it will shatter into pieces when touched (and if you watch the ad, all she’s doing is reaching out to touch them). Nor do they electrocute anyone who touches them. Therefore there is absolutely no fucking reason to assult someone for touching them without asking. Yell at them, maybe. Actually attack them, no.

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      22 minutes ago

      So, speaking of putting words in people’s mouths, I never said that.

      Still haven’t seen you posting a picture of you destroying your most prized possession and then whining about how there’s nothing anyone could do. So I guess it’s only your stuff that you place a value on.

      one of the things that has convinced me I don’t want to is them talking about the price of their clubs.

      Just because it’s not worth it to you doesn’t mean it’s not worth it to them. If you’re ever looking to get into it then Costco currently carries some reasonably priced clubs…

      I have never yet seen a golf club that is so fragile that it will shatter into pieces when touched

      I’ve seen some persimmon wood clubs with wooden shafts that I wouldn’t touch, but then again I’m respectful of other people’s stuff.

      Nor do they electrocute anyone who touches them.

      I’ve known people to have a concealed carry stashed in their golf bag.

      This portion of this thread has turned into a trolley problem where a guy standing next to a lever has one of his golf clubs laying on one track, and someone voluntarily laid down on the empty track while he was standing at the lever. He’s going to catch shit either way because of someone else’s actions (“your stuff’s broke!” versus “why’d you do that?”). I don’t think anyone’s arguing that the person at the lever/club owner created the setup to the trolley problem.

      I don’t see a difference between the golf club and an ironworker’s spud wrench in his tool bag. If someone pulls it out of the bag and drops it into a storm grate early some morning, but the golfer is going to be short a club and the worker will have to go to work without all the required tools on the tool list. At some point the club/tool/purchase has to actually be used for its intended purpose and go from a “securely locked up” state (in a locked house/vehicle) to an “in use” state where someone is clearly using it. Before this thread I’d have thought it was axiomatic that you don’t do something like run up to someone while they’re actively using a tool/machine, but I guess some folks need to be told: if you see a golfer lined up at a ball and concentrating on it, then he’s actively golfing and you shouldn’t interfere. Likewise with going and grabbing a hard hat off a worker’s head. My argument is that the golfing stand bag, next to the golfer, on a golf course is still actively in use even if you think it’s not. The tool bag is in use if the worker has set it on the ground to juggle car keys and a cup of coffee next to their vehicle. They’re a professional in their domain and you don’t get to be an outsider and set rules for their domain.