• ManixT@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    Don’t forget all the russification brought to eastern Europe by the bullshit imperalist Soviet union.

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      4 days ago

      Should they have made everybody speak French or English? To compete with the West economically the East needed a common language. How should the language have been chosen?

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        What they should have done is let countries keep their sovereignty. Or are you saying that ecomonic competition with the west is a valid reason for what Russia did to eastern Europe?

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          What would have happened if they had let the countries keep their sovereignity?

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            Why? Is countries having their souvereignty and agency not enough?

            Least of all eastern Europe might not hate Russia as much as they do now.

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              having their souvereignty and agency not enough?

              Countries with souvereignity usually have a capitalistic elite. For the elite that’s enough, but for the people?

              Without the USSR the US would have been able to treat the countries much earlier like they treat South America. I doubt that people would have been happy with it. But they would hate Russia much less.

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                Well with the USSR, countries were occupied, countless people murdered and exiled, families destroyed, and forcefully replaced with russians who would influence the future of their states forever.

                What the USSR did with russification is just like what the israelies are doing in the west bank with their “settlers”. The USSR was an imperialist colonizer and was fucking awful; not some heroic response to the west.

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                  with russians who would influence the future

                  Sent there by a Georgian. Unless people want to end Communism, what does it matter if there are resettled people? The party had to create work for everybody. The EU has free movement. It will end the same way, only that there will be an elite that owns everything but doesn’t share.

                  is just like what the israelies are doing in the west bank with their “settlers”.

                  I have read about resettlements gone wrong but has the USSR resettled people without offering new land?

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                    It “had to create work for everybody”? By deporting native people from their land and replacing them with russians? That sounds normal to you?

                    Without offering new land? russia straight up stole the land from these people and gave them to russians in the name of their fake communism which just meant shipping resources to moscow as the expense of the countries they illegally occupied.