• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    14 days ago

    Almost, and intelligent leftists too. Complain all you want for now, until primaries are over. This is the best time to do so actually.

    Once the primary results are in, then yes complaining needs to stop until after the midterms. After the midterm results are in, you can go back to complaining.

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      14 days ago

      The OP clearly doesn’t like people complaining now, but also: “Dissent is evil 33% of the time” sounds very undemocratic.

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        14 days ago

        The couple of months between the primary and general elections is far less than “33% of the time”.

        Do you think temporary water restrictions during a severe drought is tyranny?

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      14 days ago

      “Suck it up and fall in line” seems like sound advice in the spaces that closely follow US politics. Except most americans don’t, even now. Most americans want to feel like they’re voting for something, not against this or that figure. Kinda the big lesson of the last decades of politics. Keep up this rhetoric, and it’s gonna depress turnout more than it helps.

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        14 days ago

        Given negative ads work extremely well, not sure that’s true.

        And honestly, voting is a civic duty and SOMEONE will win. If you don’t vote you fucking suck, period.

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          13 days ago

          Buddy, we’re the inheritors of the British Empire. We all deserve Trump.

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          13 days ago

          Tone and perspective can make two statements that look different but essentially say the same thing. “Fall in line” or “stop complaining until after midterms”.

          Here’s a third: “Only voice criticisms when its most convenient for the institution you’re criticizing.”

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            Here’s one which actually says what I did: “Don’t voice criticisms when it’s counter-productive to achieving the goals you want to accomplish”.

            Voicing criticisms in the primary season? Excellent choice, helps to push people towards the primary candidates which best align with your goals.

            Voicing criticisms after the general election? Not as productive, but still fine; helps inform people what the issues are.

            Voicing criticisms after the candidates have been chosen, but before the general election? Absolutely moronic, the last thing you want to do. It accomplishes nothing except increasing the the possibility that the worst candidate wins. Totally garbage, toddler-brain decision.

            After the primary, your best outcome is defeating whichever popular candidate most opposes your views. Drawing support away from the biggest threat to the worst outcome is counter-productive.

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              Voicing criticisms after the candidates have been chosen, but before the general election? Absolutely moronic, the last thing you want to do. It accomplishes nothing except increase the possibility that the worst candidate wins. Totally garbage, toddler-brain decision.

              What if the criticism is “you’re running a bad campaign and going to lose the election because of it”? I really don’t think going easy on our representatives is helping them. A healthy party should be capable of digesting criticism at any point in time, not just in pristine conditions.

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                13 days ago

                If that’s your criticism, give their office a call or send them an email. This is not productive criticism to present to voters, it’s literally the exact opposite.

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                  13 days ago

                  The DNC doesn’t sign my paycheck, I don’t work for them. Expecting the general electorate to talk and post about politics like they’re DNC employees following a style guide is frankly crazy. They’re supposed to try and represent us, not the other way around.

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                    13 days ago

                    Well you’re behaving like the RNC signs your paycheck. Your criticisms don’t make the DNC change their behavior, it just makes it more likely that the GOP will win more elections.

                    Expecting the general electorate to talk and post about politics like they have a basic grasp of cause and effect is the bare minimum.