• brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
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    You don’t seem to understand something really simple: an already planned and happening event can be used as a smoke screen. If you browse the news you will see nothing about the epstein files or the genocide in gaza but trump handling the world cup. Halftime shows have never been a thing in soccer and the president of a country is not supposed to deliver the cup. This already planned event was milked as much as possible to work as a distraction for all the shit that is currently happening in the world and it worked incredibly good.

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      Mate, the football World Cup is ALWAYS the largest sports event worldwide.

      Sure, big events can be used as smoke screens but saying anything here was done on purpose is just showing your ignorance towards what the WC is. They had to have planned it in 1930 for it to happen now, they had to have known that the Epstein files would be a thing in 2016 when the bid started, and pulled some strings to win in 2018, and all that to use the largest televised event to hide the Epstein case.

      It’s just ridiculous. Those two events have nothing to do with one another.

      Especially since they have an easier method available - Trump’s (Epstein’s?) billionaire buddies own all the US media! They can just decide that the files are to be buried under news about happy puppies and that’s exactly what would happen.

      On top of that, you don’t seem to understand how moden news outlets (especially those online) and their readers work. The news outlets publish whatever garners clicks. People click outrage pieces the most, but they get bored quickly. Why do you think Zelenskyy is non-stop circling the world and talking to world leaders? He’s doing all in his power to keep Ukraine in the media, because if it was up to the general public, the news coverage would be similar to that of the Sudan civil war right now - which is negligible. The elites don’t even have to do anything for people to just lose interest, clicks to subside, and news agencies to move on from Epstein to other topics.

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        Mate, the football World Cup is ALWAYS the largest sports event worldwide.

        from the previous commend i made: "Halftime shows have never been a thing in soccer and the president of a country is not supposed to deliver the cup. "

        Sure, big events can be used as smoke screens but saying anything here was done on purpose is just showing your ignorance

        You are acting more ignorant than anyone else here because i never said that everything was done on purpose

        It’s just ridiculous. Those two events have nothing to do with one another.

        Read what’s in the epstein files, you seem to have no clue.

        Especially since they have an easier method available - Trump’s (Epstein’s?) billionaire buddies own all the US media! They can just decide that the files are to be buried under news about happy puppies and that’s exactly what would happen.

        replace happy puppies with soccer

        On top of that, you don’t seem to understand how modern news outlets (especially those online) and their readers work. The news outlets publish whatever garners clicks.

        You just said yourself that billionaire owns all the US media and they can decide what news are about.

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          You just said yourself that billionaire owns all the US media and they can decide what news are about.

          They can’t decide to use the WC as a smokescreen, because the WC happens once every 4 years and the host is selected 10 years prior. You can’t really pump it up to “become” a smokescreen, because it already is the largest televised event on the planet.

          What you’re saying is the equivalent of suggesting that “the elites” have made the Sun to shine brightly on a July day in Texas. That’s the default state of things, mate, nobody got to decide on that.

          I’m only going to reply to this, because the rest is just silly, or commenting on standard Trump behaviour, which is “president of a country is not supposed to do” period.

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            They can’t decide to use the WC as a smokescreen, because the WC happens once every 4 years and the host is selected 10 years prior. You can’t really pump it up to “become” a smokescreen, because it already is the largest televised event on the planet.

            You can pump it up to be a smokescreen exactly like every other event. If no media outlet talks about it, if the event isn’t advertised, if no famous star play at the event and if no public figure award the cup, the coverage and popularity of the event goes down. If you do the opposite and spend a lot of money to sponsor the event the coverage goes up indefinitely and you can use it as a smoke screen.

            What do you remember about 2022 winter olympics?

            What you’re saying is the equivalent of suggesting that “the elites” have made the Sun to shine brightly on a July day in Texas. That’s the default state of things, mate, nobody got to decide on that.

            Why do you make stupid examples when it’s clear what we are talking about? If the billionares who own all the media decides not to talk about the sun shining over texas you won’t see many news about it.

            I’m only going to reply to this, because the rest is just silly, or commenting on standard Trump behaviour, which is “president of a country is not supposed to do” period.

            Let’s remember that this conversation started after i pointed out that this event successfully distracted people from the epstein files and the genocide in gaza, if you want to reply any further it could be useful if you let everyone know what you think about trump being a pedophile and israel government murdering kids in a genocide

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              If no media outlet talks about it

              Again, you have no idea what kind of an event is the World Cup.

              “Not talking about it” is the media equivalent of suicide. Because if you’re not buying the license, someone else will, and that means millions of people will be tuning to their channel.

              if the event isn’t advertised

              Hahahahahahahaha, OK, that made me actually laugh out loud! :D

              if no famous star play at the event

              No football fan gives a flying fuck about whoever they get to sing at the opening ceremony. Like, just fucking imagine, a dude from Brazil, Japan, or Norway saying “ahh, I was going to fly to the US to watch football, but they had XYZ artist, so I’m not gonna”. Dude, just stop, you’re digging yourself a hole and the sad thing is you’re completely unaware of it…

              the coverage and popularity of the event goes down

              See my first quote reply. That’s not how this event works.

              What do you remember about 2022 winter olympics?

              The fact that the total viewership was 2.01 billion unique viewers.

              WC 2026 had 11.53 billion.

              (the number is higher than the total population of the planet because it’s counting views across all games/matches).

              Once more, you have no idea how MASSIVE an event the WC is.

              Why do you make stupid examples when it’s clear what we are talking about?

              Because that’s how stupid your example is! I know you’re not aware, but that’s just a fact of life - you don’t get to “make the WC go away” by “not broadcasting it”, such thing doesn’t exist. A fucking local TV station of 30 people would enter a death loan just to get the rights, if no other station took them!

              If the billionares who own all the media decides not to talk about the sun shining over texas you won’t see many news about it.

              But PEOPLE will still see it! Just like with the Sun, you can just look yourself, with the WC - VPNs exist. People can just watch it from other countries’ broadcasts, or pirate broadcasts.

              Let’s remember that this conversation started after i pointed out that this event successfully distracted people from the epstein files and the genocide in gaza,

              But it didn’t! These two events are completely disconnected! It’s like saying “the Ukrainian attacks on russian oil refineries successfully distracted people from the Epstein fils” - it’s a fucking insane statement. There can be multiple different things in the news at the same time! Like, for example, Ukrainian attacks AND the World Cup! The fact that the media is not talking about the Epstein list that much anymore stems from two things:

              1. It’s being actively suppressed by the Republicans.
              2. People are getting bored and aren’t clicking the links.

              if you want to reply any further it could be useful if you let everyone know what you think about trump being a pedophile and israel government murdering kids in a genocide

              Ah, you’re already putting me down in the “actually supports genocide and paedophilia” column, eh? Well, here’s a surprise for you: I think Trump and Netanyahu both should be, ideally, executed by guillotine, televised. I think the vast majority of the Republican party should be placed in prison. I think the UN should create a buffer zone with “shoot to kill” orders for any fucking settler trying move two steps outside Israel’s borders, and kick all the current settlers out, barefoot, with as much as they can fit in their pockets, all the way back to Israel.

              But I know that attempting to shut down the WC is impossible, because it’s just too big an event all on its own.