• EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.app
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    6 days ago

    I keep seeing people try to rehab the word Incel online as a neutral term and I don’t understand it. It’s come to mean violent misogynist. Blablabla, it was originally coined by a woman, WE KNOW.

    If you’re just a guy who isn’t a misogynist and is struggling to find a person to date, you’d say you’re currently single and looking, but it’s tough out there. Something like that. Hell, I doubt even devout terminally online incels actually self-identity as incels to people IRL because they know exactly what that word means to people should they recognize it.

    • Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      Most of the time once someone has declared themselves a incel theyve committed to never changing their behavior. That is the inherent toxicity of it. If you cant self reflect and make changes then the damage is self inflicted.

      Id say someone who is just generally unattractive and doesnt actually care about sex wont go as far to identify with incels.

    • printf("%s", name);@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      It’s come to mean violent misogynist.

      Thanks for summarizing the past few years for me 🤣 (stopped following the news and the world around me a few years ago so I didn’t realize what the word had come to mean. Oh boi.)

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    I don’t think reformed incels are particularly more likely to show empathy to anyone than your average non-incel.

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        That’s fair. Although, I don’t think getting laid necessarily makes people more empathetic either.

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          I don’t think that’s what they are saying either.

          A rehabbed incel would develop empathy and THEN they might have a chance at getting laid.

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      6 days ago

      I’ve known lots of negative personality traits… most of them dont take care of themselves like this one.

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    They’re still people. When you fight someone acting like a terrible person, you fight for them. You make sure they know that their behavior is unacceptable, and that their way of thinking isn’t doing them any favors. You do this not just because you’re right, but because they need to hear it in order to have any chance of changing themselves for the better. Incels deserve to be fought because they deserve to be rehabilitated. Reinforcing behavior is how you solidify it, not change it; you have to challenge someone to see things differently for them to learn that there’s another way.