• applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    15 days ago

    i agree cheating is unnecessary. the point is that its evidence that people want more partners, but the prevailing societal pressures push people into monogamous relationships against their own desires, so they cheat because its more in line with what they really want.

    yes natural doesnt equal good, that would be an appeal to nature. but people want to be nonmonogamous, and pressuring them not to isnt really a good thing at all. i mean can you even see the ridiculousness of comparing violence to wanting to love more than one person? pressuring people into monogamous relationships at a societal level is bad. you might not think thats happening but it is.

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      15 days ago

      Natural doesn’t supercede consent. Again, if everyone is OK with an open relationship its fine, but condoms aren’t natural and its clear that removing a condom without consent just because that is more natural isn’t ok.

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      15 days ago

      I acknowledge that societal dating pressures exist. That being said, claiming that individual preferences are illusionary trivializes individual preferences altogether. Whether or not the preferences comes from a societal pressure, doesn’t mean its invalid. If anything, believing otherwise can be dangerous. For instance, if a woman doesn’t wants kids, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. Claiming that they’re wrong because there’s a biological desire for humans to reproduce would be obnoxious.

      That’s all to highlight that others individual preferences should be respected. This includes both monogamous and non-monogamous preferences.

      As for the comparison between fighting and romance I made, it wasn’t to claim that these two things are similar in substance, rather I was saying they’re similar in origin.

    • Zoot@reddthat.com
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      14 days ago

      I think you need to preface this by saying “You have no desire for monogamous relations” but you absolutely can not say “All people want to be polyamorous”. Only some people do, and it certainly would be nice if they were not pressured into something that doesn’t work for them.