• edible_funk@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    According to lemmy absolutely nobody could every recognize a totenkopf as an exclusively Nazi symbol worn by the SS. Same motherfuckers will post a GIF from inglorious basterds. The death’s head is a well known recognizable Nazi symbol everywhere but lemmy apparently.

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      The left has a real problem with intersectionality and excusing American imperialism. Platner should have never had the support he did to begin with and it’s incredibly disheartening to see others on the left argue that he was going to be our Leftist Saviour when this is his past:

      • He talks about ignoring US orders to stop firing explosive devices at Iraqi civilians. He brags about how his unit came up with a way to rig up their equipment so they could shoot grenades at them. I want to be clear the US military ordered them to stop shooting mortars in densely populated civilian areas because they were killing so many people.

      • He brags about fighting to defend Abu ghraib against Iraqi freedom fighters that were trying to liberate the torture and rape facility

      • He jokes about urinating on dead bodies in Afghanistan.

      We can also examine some of his claims and opinions on social media.

      • He talks about how he’s regretful he did not participate in the American Indian wars (the US conducted genocide against the indigenous population of the area nowadays referred to as the mainland United States) and the Haitian intervention.

      • He talks about how to defeat Isis American needs to kill millions of people in the Middle East and that America should do it, even if it takes decades of killing.

      I don’t believe for a second that this man had no idea what a totenkopf was. MAYBE when he first got it, but the years after? No way.

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      I had never heard the term totenkopf before this guy.

      Ive seen thousands of skulls in various ways. I still don’t know what makes something a totenkopf and what makes it not one, definatively

      I’m aware it was used by nazis, but wouldn’t have ever questioned in without the SS tag or swastika.

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        Good for you. It’s still an incredibly recognizable exclusively Nazi with a capital N symbol.

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          It’s not at all exclusive to nazis. Hundreds of people/organizations have used a skull and crossbones

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            But only Nazis used the totenkopf, which isn’t an ambiguous skull and crossbones despite your ignorance.

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              What defines it as a totenkopf or a skull and cross bones. Can you explain the difference?

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                Are you fuckin serious? The fact that it’s literally the fuckin badge the fuckin SS had on their caps. The fact it looks nothing like any other skull and crossbones, the texture of the skull, it being in sight profile, literally the whole fuckin thing. Why are you justifying a Nazi tattoo? It’s fuckin irrelevant if a bunch of dumbfuck Americans don’t recognize Nazi imagery, it’s an unambiguous totenkopf, an exclusively Nazi symbol. It’s not similar to a totenkopf; it’s clearly a totenkopf. Your ignorance doesn’t change what it is. It does mean you’re a fuckin Nazi apologist though.

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                  I’m not justifying a god damned thing, im saying I don’t know what makes it one thing and not the other. And apparently you can’t either since you won’t just answer the fucking question.

                  Given that I very much agree with punching nazis a d have since I learned of them, knowing someone who literally ate nazis in the form of sausages, and I had never heard the word before platner, it’s not as well recognized as you are claiming it to be.

                  That’s it that’s it’s not that easily identified regardless of how you feel about it.

                  For fucks sake man stop being an asshole about this

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                    And apparently you can’t either since you won’t just answer the fucking question.

                    The fact that it’s literally the fuckin badge the fuckin SS had on their caps. The fact it looks nothing like any other skull and crossbones, the texture of the skull, it being in side profile, literally the whole fuckin thing. Why are you justifying a Nazi tattoo? …it’s an unambiguous totenkopf, an exclusively Nazi symbol. It’s not similar to a totenkopf; it’s clearly a totenkopf.

                    Can’t fuckin read can ya.

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                    Does it look like a fucking jolly roger to you? How many other skull and crossbones have you seen that look just like that? Y’all fucking arguing that it isn’t a totenkopf just because y’all dumbasses don’t know what the fuck it is, but your knowledge on the matter don’t fuckin change that it was clearly specifically a totenkopf, and he knew what the fuck it was and his friends knew. It’s a Nazi capital N fuckin Nazi symbol, exclusively, as in not used anywhere else, and you don’t accidentally get it tattooed on you. And I’ll stop being an ass when motherfuckers stop making excuses for literal goddamn Nazi tattoos. Y’all acting like it’s a fucking punisher skull, it’s the fucking emblem of the SS for fucks sake. Christ this fucking place.