I mean, just the timeline shows that whoever was putting this together (Politico and NYT) had the main concern of getting Platner to drop out
They didn’t care about the story, they didn’t investigate anything to find the truth, they didn’t even chase ratings.
They just kept dropping bombs a week before he could be forced out.
Doesn’t mean he’s innocent, if anything it means there needs to be an investigation into all of it. But the only way that would have happened was if Planter stayed in, won, and then had an investigation done himself.
Now that he’s dropped no one is going to look into any of it, in a month he won’t be in any headlines or mentioned again.
Depending on who replaces him is what may make it a big deal long term.
But the NYT just smacked down a progressive who was vocally against Israel, if it worked once the oligarchs will keep doing it. A senate seat is too important for them to just not try.
Look, there’s room to talk about the best way forward and it sucks, this really, really sucks that Platner couldn’t live up to what we all had hoped. But we can have those discussions without victim blaming and indulging in conspiracy theories too much.
They can, but they don’t get the benefit of the doubt. Increased scrutiny is one of the consequences for their actions. If they can’t understand that and deal with it then they’re still a shitty person.
The guy with the Nazi tattoo, who worked for blackwater, that has been credibly accused of sexual assault appears to be showing that he hasn’t become better.
I wanted Platner to be the guy because I do think in this moment, he would have won.
But I know first hand how traditional newspaper legal sourcing and corroboration works (yes, for all they are hateable for other reasons, that includes the NYT). Once you know how careful they are with sources, because the potential exists for even a single defamation lawsuit to utterly bankrupt the company, then you know the details in that article are both credible and passing those checks would not have been fakeable without an incredibly elaborate conspiracy.
That doesn’t mean the allegations are true, but I believe it’s likely they are true.
Well hate say Told everyone so, but I was against this guy from the jump, and told everyone he was no progressive and all I got was scorn and downvoted. Hate to be right, but now we fucked and Republicans win.
I have no interest in watching his video but I also have no interest in further reading the article when it talks about Nixon and his “graceful exit”.
Yes, I seem to remember his graceful exit taking years.
And no one today would be referring to it as “graceful” if he had actually been prosecuted.
Nixon was granted “grace” by Ford, nothing he did himself was graceful in the slightest.
I mean, just the timeline shows that whoever was putting this together (Politico and NYT) had the main concern of getting Platner to drop out
They didn’t care about the story, they didn’t investigate anything to find the truth, they didn’t even chase ratings.
They just kept dropping bombs a week before he could be forced out.
Doesn’t mean he’s innocent, if anything it means there needs to be an investigation into all of it. But the only way that would have happened was if Planter stayed in, won, and then had an investigation done himself.
Now that he’s dropped no one is going to look into any of it, in a month he won’t be in any headlines or mentioned again.
Depending on who replaces him is what may make it a big deal long term.
But the NYT just smacked down a progressive who was vocally against Israel, if it worked once the oligarchs will keep doing it. A senate seat is too important for them to just not try.
You think no investigation happened at all?
Look, there’s room to talk about the best way forward and it sucks, this really, really sucks that Platner couldn’t live up to what we all had hoped. But we can have those discussions without victim blaming and indulging in conspiracy theories too much.
I, for on, don’t have a bottomless well of trust for pro-Israel establishment media.
I, for one, don’t have a bottomless well of trust for men with admitted alcohol problems and violent tendencies and a history of victim blaming.
Oh God forbid people become better.
Has he become better? Since he seems to be incapable of accountability I don’t think so.
They can, but they don’t get the benefit of the doubt. Increased scrutiny is one of the consequences for their actions. If they can’t understand that and deal with it then they’re still a shitty person.
I’d like y’all to direct some of that scrutiny at Janet Mills too.
Did she also rape someone?
The guy with the Nazi tattoo, who worked for blackwater, that has been credibly accused of sexual assault appears to be showing that he hasn’t become better.
Where did he get better? When? What has he done in the last 5 years that show he got better?
Because all I see is a lot of denial and blaming everyone else but himself.
Mods removing every comment mentioning the Nazi tattoo. Lemmy never disappoints.
Uh… run for election on a platform of anti-imperialism and anti-Zionism?
Seeking power isn’t a restitution move.
Yes, I think no investigation happened at all. Not one iota.
I wanted Platner to be the guy because I do think in this moment, he would have won.
But I know first hand how traditional newspaper legal sourcing and corroboration works (yes, for all they are hateable for other reasons, that includes the NYT). Once you know how careful they are with sources, because the potential exists for even a single defamation lawsuit to utterly bankrupt the company, then you know the details in that article are both credible and passing those checks would not have been fakeable without an incredibly elaborate conspiracy.
That doesn’t mean the allegations are true, but I believe it’s likely they are true.
Well hate say Told everyone so, but I was against this guy from the jump, and told everyone he was no progressive and all I got was scorn and downvoted. Hate to be right, but now we fucked and Republicans win.