• kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 days ago

    Are you seriously implying that it’s a No True Scotsman fallacy to ever exclude anyone from any group? The Nazis didn’t even call themselves socdems, they called themselves socialists. That’s the same system that the PRC says it has right now; are they Nazis? Were the Soviets Nazis?

    Very few arguments can be evaluated based on form alone. You have to check for external consistency. The Nazis were not socialists because they did not advocate for worker ownership over the means of production. They were not socdems because they did not advocate for universal public services. They were nationalist because they did advocate for national supremacy and closed (but expanding) borders.

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      they called themselves national socialists

      you are an anarchist, you would definitely think the soviet union was worse than nazis and PRC is fascist.

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        If I call myself a giant, I don’t suddenly and magically grow to be 30’ tall. What people call themselves means nothing.

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        You probably think the DPRK is a democracy too. ‘It’s in the name.”