Late Tuesday afternoon, with the subtlety of a wrecking ball and the morality of a foreclosure notice, the Trump administration announced the most devastating attack on the U.S. Forest Service in the agency’s 121-year history. Not a budget cut. Not a policy shift. Not a “reorganization.” An execution.
They’re ripping the headquarters out of Washington and shipping it to Salt Lake City, Utah — the beating heart of the anti-public-lands movement in America. They’re shuttering every single one of the ten regional offices that have governed this agency since Gifford Pinchot built the system over a century ago — and with them, the career professionals who spent entire lifetimes earning the expertise and the authority to push back when politicians came calling with bad ideas and worse motives. They’re destroying more than fifty research facilities across thirty-one states, labs that house decades of irreplaceable long-term science, the kind you literally cannot restart once it’s gone. And they’re replacing all of it — the offices, the scientists, the institutional knowledge, the professional independence — with fifteen political appointees called “state directors,” embedded in state capitals alongside the very governors, legislators, and industry lobbyists who have spent their careers demanding that the Forest Service log more, protect less, and get out of the way.



This is just a stupid and ineffective strategy to win the election. You guys lost to Trump of all people due to Dems being ineffective and refusing to listen to their base. Now you’re just trying to do the same thing again. Remind me again about the definition of insanity?
Nah. This is completely incorrect and your boldfaced assumption as to this reason is why we lost. False Equivalence botherism needs to be put to rest. Harris was better in literally every way. The only reason, and I mean the only reason fools fell for it was because of billionaires, and foreign dictators from Bibi to Putin helping to put their thumb on the scale.
What’s so odd and outright fallacious about this line of reasoning is to suggest that the Democratic candidate must be perfect, and not just simply and obviously better than the binary alternative choice.
It’s literally outright fallacious to equate wanting a Democratic candidate that listens to their constituents with saying we want a perfect Democratic candidate. Can you please not lie so openly and brazenly? You’re simply doubling down on doing the insanity thing now. Haven’t you learned anything from 2024?
Decent attempt at gaslighting but not going to work.
Yes or no: no-voters and third-party voters contributed to the situation we’re in, and in the same way these same groups claimed Biden was complicit in genocide, so too are these no-voters and third-party voters complicit on the worsening crisis in Iran, Gaza, Ukraine, the deaths from ICE and BP, and of course OP’s current subject regarding the US Forest Service (leaving aside climate change regression).
It’s okay if the own up to their catastrophic blunder, so long as they don’t repeat it going forward.
What part of showing you misrepresenting what I said is gaslighting? Do you even know what the word means?
Funny how you think voters are complicit in the worsening crisis by demanding Biden and Harris to stop supporting a genocide, but somehow the Biden administration gets a pass despite directly strengthening Israel and vetoing every effort by the UN to rein in Israel’s actions which led to them being emboldened and doing whatever they currently please. Now that’s pure gaslighting if I ever see one.
You can continue defending the Democrats only listening to the elite class and alienating their voters, but it is the responsibility of the party to persuade voters to vote for them. Expecting the majority of voters to be informed enough to vote for the lesser evil of the Democrats without them putting in any effort to court them is hilariously naive considering the continuous gutting of your education system and worker’s rights. That’s the biggest blunder of the whole 2024 election. It also shows how out-of-touch the Democrats have become to even think that was possible.
In order to win, you need to look at reality and stop imagining the existence of the large voter base that is always informed enough to vote for the lesser evil despite being ignored and the moderate Republican that would vote for Democrats if you appeal to them. You also need to stop advocating for the status quo given that it is the current system that created the mess you’re in right now. Any Democratic candidate that is in favour of the status quo in the next presidential election is one that supports the continuous downward spiral of your country.
I agree with you, but, I am curious, what does a departure from the status quo mean to you? Is not supporting Israel enough? I tend to say a lot of the same things you have in conversations, but, then I go “I don’t really have any solutions though…” so I look like an idiot.
You guys need more progressive policies. Examples being:
These are just some examples of things that can help the US catch up with the rest of the world. It might not be possible to achieve all of these within 4 years, but you guys need a politician that are willing to fight for them instead of ones that only flip flops their opinion based on consultant recommendation.
I would add to that list banning at a federal level first past the post elections for any partisan election. That’s just as important as overturning Citizens United. We need to break out of this cycle of constantly being forced into voting against a candidate instead of for one because it allows them to keep ratcheting policy ever rightward.
You’re right, that one is very very important.