No matter how fanboi-y a Linux or Apple user gets, they can never out fanboi a Microsoft fanboi. They take making shit up about competitors to a entirely new level.
Every operating system contributed to the bloat. Windows has Win32, OS X has Carbon / Cocoa, Linux has X11 and various widget libs that sit on top of it. So it has been a perennial nut to crack to make cross platform widgets - wxWidgets, QT, SWT/JWT/Swing on Java, XMLShell (Firefox), Electron, GTK/GTK#, winelib etc.
Throw mobile platforms into the mix and it’s an unholy mess. Lowest common denominator is HTML and so the likes of Electron “wins” even though it’s bloated and slow.
i actually don’t have a problem with HTML, i just think that instead of every app shipping their own copy of electron, the operating system should provide basic browser functionality.
that sounds like Tauri!
Linux and Mac use WebkitGTK, Windows uses Edge/Chromium, Android uses Chrome - as bundled in the respective OS, and you essentially have a frontend running on that webview communicating with a backend running locally via some special IPC protocol
Abstraction layers? In MY messy pile of spaghetti ass code!?
Someone obviously missed their nap and is having a tantrum.
Most applications that are Electron either only support Windows or also want to support Android, iOS and Web. I assume there is some toolkit out there that supports everything, but honestly HTML5 is more well known and tested.
What kind of shit for brains asshole is still defending Windows in 2025?
And what kind of slavering mouth-breathing teoglodyte doesn’t understand that Hannah Montana Linux negates all of these issues, will suck your dixk without hesitation, and lets you read news from four days from now.
Thank God this guy got disliked to hell.
5 downvotes are absolutely nothing compared to that level of idiocy.
I welcome other’s input but I thought this was a pretty clear cut case of Mac becoming popular. Why write a program for Windows and Mac when you can just make a website. Then Chromebooks in education sealed the deal.
Linux is only starting mainstream use now because of Europe’s push for digital sovereignty and windows 10 end of life.
Okay, how does this dude explain native Linux apps?
Probably “Native Linux apps are made in Linux-only bullshit by useless neckbeards, and probably only run in the terminal. Real actual apps like Discord made by a for-profit corporation have to be made cross-platform.”
Aren’t Qt and GTK cross platform? I have Dolphin and Kate running on my Windows work laptop.
Yeah, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There is a shitload of frontend developers that specialize in web standards and technologies. Electron was developed to take advantage of that deep pool of frontend developers. The side affect, is that other OSes can just support electron and they get the developers and the applications for free. Which has been a major boon for Linux users and those looking to escape Microsoft’s vendor lockin strategy. Today might be different, but in the past, nobody was intending to support Linux by creating electron apps. If they cared so much or it was so important, they would have been using Qt and GTK prior to Electron.
Meanwhile Microsoft makes the start menu with React
I try not to let considerations get in the way of doing great work.
That is the most punchable response I’ve seen in a while.
When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
Sure, except that end user market share for MacOS is larger than Linux probably
Depends, apple & linux are toe to toe in the research world.
is that where you find a lot of electron programs?
There are indeed lots of Mac users at CERN. But CERN is mostly concerned with particles other than electrons.
I wonder why so many people bundle Electron when you can make your app run in any browser. Like, you can totally write a program that just launches the browser and makes it load a site from lokal storage
Electron (and Tauri, and Neutralino) also offers some deeper OS integration stuff that browsers don’t do or actively block; direct file management, USB peripheral control, that sort of thing.
But for something like Discord, you’re totally right. You just need the browser.
This is not even mental gymnastics at that point.
Mental… contortionist?
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The user land API/ABI is stable to a fault in Linux. The kernel API/ABI is unstable.
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Companies are cheap. They hired web devs then tasked them with building a desktop application rather then hiring people to write native apps. They had a hammer and used it to fix every problem they had.
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macOS is just as affected by electron apps as a Linux is.
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Electron is horrible, but it does bring apps to many an OS once Chromium is ported.
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Open protocols or open APIs from the company would fix the non-native app problem.
The user land API/ABI is stable to a fault in Linux. The kernel API/ABI is unstable
It’s the other way around. The kernel API stable to a fault, the kernel ABI isn’t. If your application only relies on the kernel API you won’t have many compatibility issues. If you rely on userland stuff such as C++ stdlib, GTK, QT, Python, … Good luck.
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